Developers of Sympa

["Stefan Hornburg (Racke)" <address@concealed>]

On 4/12/19 11:20 AM, IKEDA Soji wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 09:34:12 +0200
> Luc Didry <address@concealed> wrote:
> 
>> vendredi 5 avril 2019, 17:26:39 CEST Xavier Bachelot wrote:
>>> This looks like an interesting idea.
>>> And this is more or less what is being done for the various web and mail 
>>> templates.
>>> About the file location, I wouldn't "pollute" /etc with the 
>>> sympa.conf-dist file. This is not a configuration file and should not be 
>>> confused with one. I would rather use $DATADIR, the same place as the 
>>> other default files.
>>
>> When you update packages in Debian and you have modified the conf file
>> in /etc and you said you want to keep it, Debian put the new version
>> of the conf file provided by the package in a file suffixed by
>> .dpkg-new.
>>
>> One of the first thing you do after installing Sympa is going to
>> /etc/sympa to configure it. I think it makes sense to have the -dist
>> file in the same directory: it's easier to notice it than if it’s in
>> $DATADIR.
>>
>> Anyway, that’s a point that can be discussed later. First thing first:
>> creating the -dist file 🙂
>>
>>> Iirc, there are a couple settings that are mandatory to be set by the 
>>> admin (domain, listmaster and possibly others), so a minimal sympa.conf 
>>> would still be needed.
>>
>> I wanted to keep it, indeed and let admins pick what they want in the
>> sympa.conf-dist file.
> 
> I don't prefer to single *.conf-dist file.  At first looking, it
> looks conprehensive.  However it seems a bit hard to maintain: Since
> all possible parameters are listed, it gets more and more unclear
> who edited which parameters.
> 
> Example may be seen on Postfix. In fact, when I build a mail
> server, I at first replace bundled main.cf with output of
> "postconf -n", then add only necessary parameters.
> 
> When inclusion feature (see GH issue #17) would be introduced,
> sympa.conf might be split into multiple snippets.
> Examples may be seen on dovecot, nginx and so on.  They may have
> directories like /etc/dovecot/ to hold snippets.
> 
> Additionally, some distributions (e.g. Debian) have things like
> /etc/nginx/site-available/ and /etc/nginx/site-enabled/ to
> make maintenance easier.

Indeed it would be really good to have that inclusion feature :-).

Regards
          Racke

> 
> 
> Regards,
> -- Soji
> 
>> -- 
>> Luc
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