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  • From: Nikolay Shaplov <address@concealed>
  • To: address@concealed
  • Subject: Re: [sympa-users] sympa webpages to rely on a js framework?
  • Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:29:34 +0400

On Tuesday 14 October 2014 15:46:28 Erik Olson wrote:
> On 2014-10-14 11:31, Nikolay Shaplov wrote:
> > I'd like to add my opinion as a user: Please do not break possibility
> > to use web interface with JavaScript off. I prefer to keep JavaScript
> > off when it is not really necessary and web sites that can't handle
> > that makes me sad. And I would be very sad if I had to turn on
> > JavaScript for _my_own_ mail list. I would not like that.
>
> Sigh. I will offer my experience/opinion as well. This is 2014. It
> would be really nice to see the front end on sympa advance like the rest
> of the web.
>
> Our organization uses mailing lists for communication, because we
> believe "push" is much better for keeping people in communication than a
> Forum that requires one to explicitly visit. I still think Sympa is the
> best mailing list software out there. And it's so important to have
> non-commercial alternatives to something Google or Yahoo.
>
> But a certain subset of our users constantly berate the UI on Sympa for
> not being friendly enough... clumsy to navigate, not easy to reply, hard
> to search, etc. MHonarc hasn't really improved in 10 years. But
> Javascript (and by extension, AJAX and JQuery) have matured to the point
> where everything on the web with anything more than simple content is
> now using it. If the tool works for the job, it should be used.

As for me, it is ok to use JS. Its not ok when site does not work without it.

Thus either modern skin should be able to handle noscript browsing or there
should be alternative skin that able to do so. So please at least keep the
skin that exist now, as an option.

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