Developers of Sympa

[Soji Ikeda <address@concealed>]

2018/06/07 23:35、David Verdin <address@concealed>のメール:

> 
> 
>> On 07/06/2018 14:41, Soji Ikeda wrote:
>> 
>> Indeed, I realized it’s irrelevant.  I want to apologize my offensive post 
>> without explanation.
> Not a big deal. Let's all be careful in our choice of words in the future! 
> ;-)
>>> Of course. However, it is still good to work on translating wiki syntax 
>>> to markdown - as you did with the manual - which makes all this content 
>>> independent from hosting.
>>> And working on a way to expose this content on platform nicer than Github 
>>> pages - especially considering the recent acquisition of Github by 
>>> Microsoft is a work that won't be lost.
>> That metaphor is not necessarily appropriate, but there seems
>> some truth.
>> 
>> Honestly, I think we would be better to be independent from
>> RENATER: We are The Sympa Community, not only a project nursed
>> by them.  (You remember, once I told you an idea about relation between us 
>> and them.)
> Yes, I hear your point but I, for one, don't share your doubts.
> Of course, there were troubles last year but I really think they made up 
> for it:
> - they employ two people (including me) working on Sympa,
> - they are large users (more than 40 domains, 300 000 users) of the 
> software,
> - they spend money sending us away for Sympa promotion (French Perl 
> workshop 2013 and 2014, YAPC 2014, Perl conference 2018, JRES 2011, 2013, 
> 2015 and 2017, Involvment with european research and education institutions 
> (trinaing at GÉANT), etc.
> - they will provide a server to which members of the community (not 
> everyone, selected admins) will have full access;
> 
> Honestly, despite some lacks in 2016-2017, RENATER is still one of the 
> stronger current supports of Sympa.
> (and I really hope to convince them to help us make you come to Europe if 
> we achieve to run a Sympa conference).

>> I’ll write on this further after reading report.
> Certainly!
> It should be a consensus.
>>> Your concern about external resources is very important. RENATER failed 
>>> in the past, so we must get guarantees to prevent such a situation to 
>>> arise again.
>>> Why not opening an issue on dotorg project about hosting with the 
>>> questions you asked? This would be a good way to reach a decision.
>> For fair discussion, I ask for removing it once.
> I'm not sure to understand your sentence correctly. Could you please 
> rephrase it?

Please remove those two repos, and then after doing it, let’s begin 
discussion.


Regards,
— Soji

> Regards,
> 
> David
> 
> -- 
> "Mieux vaut viser la perfection et la rater que viser la médiocrité et 
> l'atteindre."
> - Francis Blanche
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