Developers of Sympa

[David Verdin <address@concealed>]

On 07/06/2018 14:41, Soji Ikeda wrote:
> Indeed, I realized it’s irrelevant.  I want to apologize my offensive post 
> without explanation.
Not a big deal. Let's all be careful in our choice of words in the 
future! ;-)
> > Of course. However, it is still good to work on translating wiki syntax to 
> > markdown - as you did with the manual - which makes all this content 
> > independent from hosting.
> > And working on a way to expose this content on platform nicer than Github 
> > pages - especially considering the recent acquisition of Github by Microsoft 
> > is a work that won't be lost.
> That metaphor is not necessarily appropriate, but there seems
> some truth.
>
> Honestly, I think we would be better to be independent from
> RENATER: We are The Sympa Community, not only a project nursed
> by them.  (You remember, once I told you an idea about relation between us 
> and them.)
Yes, I hear your point but I, for one, don't share your doubts.
Of course, there were troubles last year but I really think they made up 
for it:
- they employ two people (including me) working on Sympa,
- they are large users (more than 40 domains, 300 000 users) of the 
software,
- they spend money sending us away for Sympa promotion (French Perl 
workshop 2013 and 2014, YAPC 2014, Perl conference 2018, JRES 2011, 
2013, 2015 and 2017, Involvment with european research and education 
institutions (trinaing at GÉANT), etc.
- they will provide a server to which members of the community (not 
everyone, selected admins) will have full access;

Honestly, despite some lacks in 2016-2017, RENATER is still one of the 
stronger current supports of Sympa.
(and I really hope to convince them to help us make you come to Europe 
if we achieve to run a Sympa conference).
> I’ll write on this further after reading report.
Certainly!
It should be a consensus.
> > Your concern about external resources is very important. RENATER failed in 
> > the past, so we must get guarantees to prevent such a situation to arise 
> > again.
> > Why not opening an issue on dotorg project about hosting with the questions 
> > you asked? This would be a good way to reach a decision.
> For fair discussion, I ask for removing it once.
I'm not sure to understand your sentence correctly. Could you please 
rephrase it?

Regards,

David

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