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["William F. Dudley Jr." <address@concealed>]

Sorry, sometimes I can be a real idiot.

log_level 1 results in sympa.log for browser url http://sympa.dudley.nu/wws:

Jul 30 15:15:16 dudley wwsympa[39174]: info main:: WWSympa started, process 
39174 
Jul 30 15:15:16 dudley wwsympa[39174]: debug main:: ORIG_PATH_INFO= 
Jul 30 15:15:16 dudley wwsympa[39174]: debug main:: ORIG_SCRIPT_NAME= 
Jul 30 15:15:16 dudley wwsympa[39174]: debug main:: PATH_INFO= 
Jul 30 15:15:16 dudley wwsympa[39174]: debug main:: QUERY_STRING= 
Jul 30 15:15:16 dudley wwsympa[39174]: debug main:: REMOTE_ADDR= 
Jul 30 15:15:16 dudley wwsympa[39174]: debug main:: REMOTE_HOST= 
Jul 30 15:15:16 dudley wwsympa[39174]: debug main:: REQUEST_METHOD= 
Jul 30 15:15:16 dudley wwsympa[39174]: debug main:: SCRIPT_NAME= 
Jul 30 15:15:16 dudley wwsympa[39174]: debug main:: SERVER_NAME= 
Jul 30 15:15:16 dudley wwsympa[39174]: debug main:: SERVER_PORT= 
Jul 30 15:15:16 dudley wwsympa[39174]: debug main:: SYMPA_DOMAIN= 
Jul 30 15:15:18 dudley wwsympa[39176]: info main:: WWSympa started, process 
39176 
Jul 30 15:15:18 dudley wwsympa[39176]: debug main:: ORIG_PATH_INFO= 
Jul 30 15:15:18 dudley wwsympa[39176]: debug main:: ORIG_SCRIPT_NAME= 
Jul 30 15:15:18 dudley wwsympa[39176]: debug main:: PATH_INFO= 
Jul 30 15:15:18 dudley wwsympa[39176]: debug main:: QUERY_STRING= 
Jul 30 15:15:18 dudley wwsympa[39176]: debug main:: REMOTE_ADDR= 
Jul 30 15:15:18 dudley wwsympa[39176]: debug main:: REMOTE_HOST= 
Jul 30 15:15:18 dudley wwsympa[39176]: debug main:: REQUEST_METHOD= 
Jul 30 15:15:18 dudley wwsympa[39176]: debug main:: SCRIPT_NAME= 
Jul 30 15:15:18 dudley wwsympa[39176]: debug main:: SERVER_NAME= 
Jul 30 15:15:18 dudley wwsympa[39176]: debug main:: SERVER_PORT= 
Jul 30 15:15:18 dudley wwsympa[39176]: debug main:: SYMPA_DOMAIN= 

Result is blank page, 421 error.

VirtualHosts stuff in apache 2.4 sites-enabled:

<VirtualHost *:80>
    ServerName sympa.dudley.nu
    ServerAdmin address@concealed
    Alias /.well-known/ /usr/local/www/sympa/docs/.well-known/
    ErrorLog /var/log/sympa.dudley.nu-error_log
    CustomLog /var/log/sympa.dudley.nu-access_log common
    LogLevel warn
    DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/sympa
    RewriteEngine on
    RewriteRule ^$      /cgi-bin/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi  [L]
    RewriteRule ^/static-sympa/(.*)$    /docs/static/$1  [L]
    RewriteRule ^/(.*)$ /cgi-bin/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/$1        [L]
    <Location /sympa>
        SetHandler "proxy:unix:/var/run/wwsympa.socket|fcgi://"
        require all granted
    </Location>

    <Location /static-sympa>
        require local
        require all granted
    </Location>

    <Location /sympasoap>
        SetHandler "proxy:unix:/var/run/sympasoap.socket|fcgi://"
        Require all granted
    </Location>
    Alias /static-sympa /usr/local/share/sympa/static
    <Location /cgi-bin>
        require all granted
        Options +FollowSymLinks
    </Location>
</VirtualHost>

11.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD
apache24-2.4.48

Bill Dudley


---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Stefan Hornburg (Racke)" <address@concealed>
To: address@concealed
Sent: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 07:52:03 +0200
Subject: Re: [sympa-users] How to debug web interface failure? - STILL BROKEN

> On 30/07/2021 00:33, William F. Dudley Jr. wrote:
> > I spoke too soon.  It loads an error page OK, but no useful content
> > is served.  421 error messages all the time.
> > 
> > I have a mailing list, called test2, and trying to look at it, I get this:
> > 
> > 98.109.205.15 - - [29/Jul/2021:18:30:45 -0400] "GET /info/test2 HTTP/1.1" 
> > 421 1
> > 98.109.205.15 - - [29/Jul/2021:18:30:47 -0400] "GET /info/test2 HTTP/1.1" 
> > 421 1
> > 
> > other failures:
> > 
> > 98.109.205.15 - - [29/Jul/2021:18:28:34 -0400] "GET /my HTTP/1.1" 421 1
> > 98.109.205.15 - - [29/Jul/2021:18:28:36 -0400] "GET /my HTTP/1.1" 421 1
> > 98.109.205.15 - - [29/Jul/2021:18:28:54 -0400] "GET /search_list_request 
> > HTTP/1.1" 421 1
> > 98.109.205.15 - - [29/Jul/2021:18:28:56 -0400] "GET /search_list_request 
> > HTTP/1.1" 421 1
> > 98.109.205.15 - - [29/Jul/2021:18:30:07 -0400] "GET /wws HTTP/1.1" 421 1
> > 98.109.205.15 - - [29/Jul/2021:18:30:09 -0400] "GET /wws HTTP/1.1" 421 1
> > 
> > This is not encouraging.
> > 
> > Bill Dudley
> 
> Hello,
> 
> you neither posted the current Apache configuration nor the debug 
> output from WWSympa.
> 
> Without that I can't help you.
> 
> Regards
>         Racke
> 
> > 
> > 
> > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > From: "Stefan Hornburg (Racke)" <address@concealed>
> > To: address@concealed
> > Sent: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 21:17:43 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [sympa-users] How to debug web interface failure?
> > 
> >> On 29/07/2021 20:22, William F. Dudley Jr. wrote:
> >>> Racke et al,
> >>>
> >>> Using a path (like sympa.dudley.nu/wws) doesn't change the outcome, as 
> >>> I already tried and as you discovered for yourself. You still get 
> >>> bupkus.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The problem is that you are using the insecure and deprecated CGI
> >> wrapper. That explains that your HTTP environment information is missing.
> >>
> >> Please follow the instructions from the official documentation:
> >>
> >> https://sympa-community.github.io/manual/install/configure-http-server-
> >> spawnfcgi.html
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>           Racke
> >>
> >>> The machine is running FreeBSD 11.4-RELEASE-p9 i386
> >>> Web server is Apache/2.4.48 (FreeBSD)
> >>>
> >>> Here's the Apache virtual host stuff, entirely unchanged since this
> >>> was working 14 months ago:
> >>>
> >>> <VirtualHost *:80>
> >>>      ServerName sympa.dudley.nu
> >>>      ServerAdmin address@concealed
> >>>      Alias /.well-known/ /usr/local/www/sympa/docs/.well-known/
> >>>      ErrorLog /var/log/sympa.dudley.nu-error_log
> >>>      CustomLog /var/log/sympa.dudley.nu-access_log common
> >>>      LogLevel warn
> >>>      DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/sympa
> >>>      RewriteEngine on
> >>>      RewriteRule ^$      /cgi-bin/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi  [L]
> >>>      RewriteRule ^/static-sympa/(.*)$    /docs/static/$1  [L]
> >>>      RewriteRule ^/(.*)$ /cgi-bin/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/$1        [L]
> >>>      Alias /static-sympa /usr/local/share/sympa/static
> >>>      <Location /cgi-bin>
> >>>          require all granted
> >>>          Options +FollowSymLinks
> >>>      </Location>
> >>> </VirtualHost>
> >>>
> >>> These are the WWSympa related parameters from sympa.conf, also 
> >>> unchanged in
> >>> 14 months (all other www-related settings are commented out):
> >>>
> >>> wwsympa_url     http://sympa.dudley.nu
> >>> static_content_url      /static-sympa
> >>> static_content_path     /usr/local/share/sympa/static
> >>> log_facility    LOCAL1
> >>> default_home    home
> >>> cookie_domain   localhost
> >>> cookie_expire   0
> >>> cookie_refresh  60
> >>> use_html_editor 0
> >>> use_fast_cgi    0
> >>>
> >>> This exists and has stuff in it:
> >>> ls /usr/local/share/sympa/static
> >>> css/            fonts/          icons/          js/             
> >>> pictures/
> >>> and is owned by and readable and writable by sympa:
> >>> ls -ld /usr/local/share/sympa/static
> >>> drwxr-xr-x  7 sympa  sympa  512 May 27  2020 
> >>> /usr/local/share/sympa/static/
> >>>
> >>> Here's the cgi-bin directory:
> >>> /var/www/sympa/cgi-bin> ls -l
> >>> total 2
> >>> -rw-r--r--  2 sympa  sympa  35 May 13  2020 robot.conf
> >>> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root   wheel  31 May 18  2020 sympa.conf@ -> 
> >>> /usr/local/etc/sympa/sympa.conf
> >>> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root   wheel  45 May 18  2020 wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi@ -> 
> >>> /usr/local/libexec/sympa/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi
> >>> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root   wheel  37 May 18  2020 wwsympa.fcgi@ -> 
> >>> /usr/local/libexec/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi
> >>>
> >>> Here are those files pointed to by the symbolic links above:
> >>> /usr/local/libexec/sympa> ls -l wwsympa*
> >>> -rwsr-sr-x  1 sympa  sympa    4448 May  4 07:37 wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi*
> >>> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root   wheel  598109 May  4 07:37 wwsympa.fcgi*
> >>>
> >>> cat robot.conf
> >>> wwsympa_url http://sympa.dudley.nu
> >>>
> >>> I don't understand this question:
> >>>> Also what do you use for the WWSympa service itself?
> >>>
> >>> Finally: I'm using http because I haven't yet gotten a Let's Encrypt 
> >>> Certificate, and I won't bother if this thing doesn't start acting a 
> >>> lot more robust in the future.  :-)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Bill Dudley
> >>>
> >>> ---------- Original Message -----------
> >>> From: "Stefan Hornburg (Racke)" <address@concealed>
> >>> To: "William F. Dudley Jr." <address@concealed>, 
> >>> address@concealed
> >>> Sent: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:00:55 +0200
> >>> Subject: Re: [sympa-users] How to debug web interface failure?
> >>>
> >>>> On 29/07/2021 16:47, William F. Dudley Jr. wrote:
> >>>>> Racke and all who replied,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for the reply, however I'm no closer to a resolution.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I turned log_level to 1.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now the sympa.log file shows this:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jul 29 10:33:40 dudley wwsympa[98520]: info main:: WWSympa started, 
> >>>>> process 98520
> >>>>> Jul 29 10:33:40 dudley wwsympa[98520]: debug main:: ORIG_PATH_INFO=
> >>>>> Jul 29 10:33:40 dudley wwsympa[98520]: debug main:: ORIG_SCRIPT_NAME=
> >>>>> Jul 29 10:33:40 dudley wwsympa[98520]: debug main:: PATH_INFO=
> >>>>> Jul 29 10:33:40 dudley wwsympa[98520]: debug main:: QUERY_STRING=
> >>>>> Jul 29 10:33:40 dudley wwsympa[98520]: debug main:: REMOTE_ADDR=
> >>>>> Jul 29 10:33:40 dudley wwsympa[98520]: debug main:: REMOTE_HOST=
> >>>>> Jul 29 10:33:40 dudley wwsympa[98520]: debug main:: REQUEST_METHOD=
> >>>>> Jul 29 10:33:40 dudley wwsympa[98520]: debug main:: SCRIPT_NAME=
> >>>>> Jul 29 10:33:40 dudley wwsympa[98520]: debug main:: SERVER_NAME=
> >>>>> Jul 29 10:33:40 dudley wwsympa[98520]: debug main:: SERVER_PORT=
> >>>>> Jul 29 10:33:40 dudley wwsympa[98520]: debug main:: SYMPA_DOMAIN=
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Which is not terribly enlightening.  This is repeated three times:
> >>>>> once each for the duplicate fetch of "/", and once for the fetch
> >>>>> of /favicon.ico.  All return 421 error code.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is the URL in the browser URL window:
> >>>>> http://sympa.dudley.nu/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is the value of wwsympa_url in sympa.conf:
> >>>>> wwsympa_url     http://sympa.dudley.nu
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I changed the latter to have a trailing '/', restarted sympa.  No 
> >>>>> change.
> >>>>> They look identical to me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now what?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bill Dudley
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello Bill,
> >>>>
> >>>> you are usually use a path part in the URL for WWSympa, e.g.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://sympa.dudley.nu/sympa or http://sympa.dudley.nu/wws.
> >>>>
> >>>> But your Sympa instance doesn't receive any information via the HTTP
> >>>> environment, so something is wrong with your setup.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please share your choice of the webserver and the WWSympa related 
> >>>> configuration.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also what do you use for the WWSympa service itself?
> >>>>
> >>>> BTW: Nowadays there is no excuse to use http:// :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>>             Racke
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------- Original Message -----------
> >>>>> From: "Stefan Hornburg (Racke)" <address@concealed>
> >>>>> To: address@concealed
> >>>>> Sent: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 07:04:42 +0200
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [sympa-users] How to debug web interface failure?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 29/07/2021 05:24, William F. Dudley Jr. wrote:
> >>>>>>> Sympa users,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I installed sympa a year ago with the intention of migrating from
> >>>>>>> mailman 2.  I never finished the project, but now I'm forced to 
> >>>>>>> abandon
> >>>>>>> mailman 2, so I must finish this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Machine is running FreeBSD 11.4-RELEASE-p9 i386.
> >>>>>>> Apache24-2.4.48 (FreeBSD package revision of Apache 2.4)
> >>>>>>> mysql57-server-5.7.34 (which sympa seems happy with)
> >>>>>>> sympa-6.2.62 (latest FreeBSD package)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I had everything working -- web interface and the ability to send 
> >>>>>>> emails
> >>>>>>> that passed gmail's DMARC tests.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Now, however, I find the web interace returns an entirely empty 
> >>>>>>> page.
> >>>>>>> Nothing at all.  I can still send emails to my "test" list, so Sympa
> >>>>>>> is still "working" as a mailing list.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The web access_log file shows this:
> >>>>>>> 98.109.205.15 - - [28/Jul/2021:22:45:18 -0400] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 421 
> >>>>>>> 1
> >>>>>>> 98.109.205.15 - - [28/Jul/2021:22:45:28 -0400] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 421 
> >>>>>>> 1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There are TWO lines for every attempted access.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> All attempts to access the web interface return a blank page and 
> >>>>>>> show
> >>>>>>> a 421 code in the log file.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (Yes, that's my own IP).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The error_log file has no new entries at all.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> How do I debug why the web interface is broken?  It worked, I 
> >>>>>>> ignored it
> >>>>>>> for a year, and now it's broken.  There have been no changes to the 
> >>>>>>> machine
> >>>>>>> other than regular security updates from freebsd.org.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This can happen when the URL in the browser is different from the URL
> >>>>>> in the wwsympa_url configuration parameter.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you use log_level = 1, you will see the headers that WWSympa is
> >>>>>> using in the log file.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also it is recommended to use FreeBSD 13, to avoid performance
> >>>>>> problems due to FreeBSD bugs in older releases.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>             Racke
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Bill Dudley
> >>>>>>> New Jersey, USA
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -- 
> >>>>>> Ecommerce and Linux consulting + Perl and web application 
> >>>>>> programming.
> >>>>>> Debian and Sympa administration.
> >>>>> ------- End of Original Message -------
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -- 
> >>>> Ecommerce and Linux consulting + Perl and web application programming.
> >>>> Debian and Sympa administration.
> >>> ------- End of Original Message -------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Ecommerce and Linux consulting + Perl and web application programming.
> >> Debian and Sympa administration.
> > ------- End of Original Message -------
> > 
> >
> 
> -- 
> Ecommerce and Linux consulting + Perl and web application programming.
> Debian and Sympa administration.
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