Developers of Sympa

["Stefan Hornburg (Racke)" <address@concealed>]

On 7/15/19 11:14 AM, Olivier Lumineau wrote:
> 
> Le 15/07/2019 à 08:45, Stefan Hornburg (Racke) a écrit :
>> On 7/14/19 7:21 AM, Stefan Hornburg (Racke) wrote:
>>> On 7/10/19 9:45 AM, IKEDA Soji wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 06:08:23 +0200
>>>> "Stefan Hornburg (Racke)" <address@concealed> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/10/19 5:06 AM, IKEDA Soji wrote:
>>>>>> Hi again,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I edited navbar to redirect menu items to the original documentation
>>>>>> site.  Contents converted from MD to DokuWiki are never tought.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We should examine about new site with enough time, I think.
>>>>>> Until we would do, we'd be better to introduce and use GitHub sites.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you please place robots.txt at the top of www.sympa.org site?
>>>>>> I couldn't do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> robots.txt:
>>>>>> ```
>>>>>> User-Agent: *
>>>>>> Disallow: /community
>>>>>> Disallow: /faq
>>>>>> Disallow: /manual
>>>>>> ```
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> -- Soji
>>>>> Hello Soji,
>>>>>
>>>>> to be honest the GH pages has drawbacks as well (layout, no search), so 
>>>>> I would like
>>>>> to give the sympa.org a try.
>>>> * I have planned to update layout of GitHub Page, but it was not my
>>>>   priority.  Of course anyone may do it.
>>>>
>>>> * I added search form on the site. See https://sympa-community.github.io/
>>>>
>>>> Ok, it's all settled.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> In order to do that, we need access to the server in a reasonable time 
>>>>> frame, so we
>>>>> can evaluate the setup there and put the stuff into a Git repository.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that doesn't go to happen soon, I support Soji's request and will 
>>>>> try to find the
>>>>> time to build a reasonable web site based on the community staff. It 
>>>>> isn't complicated
>>>>> to convert Markdown documents into a reasonable static web site and add 
>>>>> search
>>>>> functions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Markdent (https://metacpan.org/pod/Markdent) is a nice module for this 
>>>>> task.
>>>> At least it will work better than privately-crafted parser.
>>>>
>>>>                                  *
>>>>
>>>> FYI: This morning a issue was submitted:
>>>>
>>>>   https://github.com/sympa-community/sympa/issues/687
>>>>
>>>> Duplicate contents matter with users and community.
>>>> (NOTE: Search engines pick both content either we wish or not.)
>>>> Especially, broken content matters.
>>>>
>>>> If we publish information including documentation, we have to take
>>>> care not making users confused.  
>>>>
>>>> That's why I propose to put robots.txt hiding probablly incomplete
>>>> content.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> -- Soji
>>> OK, a week has gone by. There is no answer from Olivier and David is out 
>>> indefinitely,
>>> so I'm supporting the robots.txt proposal.
>>>
>>> I'll add the Github pages parsing task to my TODO list, but before that 
>>> I'll produce
>>> new Sympa packages for buster and stretch and also fixing the Ansible 
>>> project.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>            Racke
>>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> in case Olivier doesn't respond soon, I'll try the 
>> https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:htmlmetatags plugin
>> to keep sympa.org content out of the search engines.
>>
>> Regards
>>         Racke
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I put the robots.txt.
> Otherwise I'm sorry I didn't answer earlier, but I can't devote much time 
> to the Sympa project.
> 

Hello Olivier,

so it is even more important to give us access ASAP.

Regards
          Racke


> I'll see to move the machines so you can access them. That said, I don't 
> know if it will be effective before the end of
> August because I will be going on holiday soon for 4 weeks.
> 
> When it will be ok, about the site, I think it would be interesting to look 
> at what Etienne has done to get started in a
> good way to transcribe the content of github on www.sympa.org .
> 
> Have a good day
> 
> Olivier
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>          Racke
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 11:12:19 +0900
>>>>>> IKEDA Soji <address@concealed> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Olivier,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Links with teletype text are broken (used frequently in the
>>>>>>> document).  See attached screen shot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the present, could you please change the links in menu to the
>>>>>>> pages in sympa-community.github.com?  It looks required to be
>>>>>>> checked carefully before it will be available enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or, as I have been telling, it would be better to assign a new CNAME
>>>>>>> record to GitHub Pages site:
>>>>>>>   https://help.github.com/en/articles/setting-up-a-custom-subdomain
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's easy, and we no longer will worry about duplicate contents.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> -- Soji
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 12:48:18 +0200
>>>>>>> David Verdin <address@concealed> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> According to what I said a few months ago, our web designer worked 
>>>>>>>> on 
>>>>>>>> the Sympa web site and reached three goals:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1- Setting a new skin with the new, community-validated logo,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2- Pluging the site to Sympa community: the manual in the Sympa web 
>>>>>>>> site 
>>>>>>>> is now directly generated from the Markdown pages in 
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/sympa-community/gpldoc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3- Removing federated login (note that you will need to create 
>>>>>>>> credentials on the new web site, and we'll need to designate people 
>>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>>> admin rights on the wiki.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a basic agreement to move the server to an area where people 
>>>>>>>> from 
>>>>>>>> the community would get administrative rights. I just lack a way to 
>>>>>>>> officialize the fact that people accessing the esrver would not use 
>>>>>>>> it 
>>>>>>>> to bad ends, such as stealing personal data, sending spam and such. 
>>>>>>>> Do 
>>>>>>>> you have any idea about how to do this? I'd like to harvest consent 
>>>>>>>> from 
>>>>>>>> future admins about theis engagement to good behaviour. Nothing too 
>>>>>>>> formal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe you did this someplace else. If yes, any feedback is welcome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the meantime, enjoy: https://www.sympa.org/index
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Mieux vaut viser la perfection et la rater que viser la médiocrité 
>>>>>>>> et l'atteindre."
>>>>>>>> - Francis Blanche
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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