Developers of Sympa

["Stefan Hornburg (Racke)" <address@concealed>]

On 7/14/19 7:21 AM, Stefan Hornburg (Racke) wrote:
> On 7/10/19 9:45 AM, IKEDA Soji wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 06:08:23 +0200
>> "Stefan Hornburg (Racke)" <address@concealed> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/10/19 5:06 AM, IKEDA Soji wrote:
>>>> Hi again,
>>>>
>>>> I edited navbar to redirect menu items to the original documentation
>>>> site.  Contents converted from MD to DokuWiki are never tought.
>>>>
>>>> We should examine about new site with enough time, I think.
>>>> Until we would do, we'd be better to introduce and use GitHub sites.
>>>>
>>>> Could you please place robots.txt at the top of www.sympa.org site?
>>>> I couldn't do it.
>>>>
>>>> robots.txt:
>>>> ```
>>>> User-Agent: *
>>>> Disallow: /community
>>>> Disallow: /faq
>>>> Disallow: /manual
>>>> ```
>>>>
>>>> Thanks much.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> -- Soji
>>>
>>> Hello Soji,
>>>
>>> to be honest the GH pages has drawbacks as well (layout, no search), so I 
>>> would like
>>> to give the sympa.org a try.
>>
>> * I have planned to update layout of GitHub Page, but it was not my
>>   priority.  Of course anyone may do it.
>>
>> * I added search form on the site. See https://sympa-community.github.io/
>>
>> Ok, it's all settled.
>>
>>
>>> In order to do that, we need access to the server in a reasonable time 
>>> frame, so we
>>> can evaluate the setup there and put the stuff into a Git repository.
>>>
>>> If that doesn't go to happen soon, I support Soji's request and will try 
>>> to find the
>>> time to build a reasonable web site based on the community staff. It 
>>> isn't complicated
>>> to convert Markdown documents into a reasonable static web site and add 
>>> search
>>> functions.
>>>
>>> Markdent (https://metacpan.org/pod/Markdent) is a nice module for this 
>>> task.
>>
>> At least it will work better than privately-crafted parser.
>>
>>                                  *
>>
>> FYI: This morning a issue was submitted:
>>
>>   https://github.com/sympa-community/sympa/issues/687
>>
>> Duplicate contents matter with users and community.
>> (NOTE: Search engines pick both content either we wish or not.)
>> Especially, broken content matters.
>>
>> If we publish information including documentation, we have to take
>> care not making users confused.  
>>
>> That's why I propose to put robots.txt hiding probablly incomplete
>> content.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -- Soji
> 
> OK, a week has gone by. There is no answer from Olivier and David is out 
> indefinitely,
> so I'm supporting the robots.txt proposal.
> 
> I'll add the Github pages parsing task to my TODO list, but before that 
> I'll produce
> new Sympa packages for buster and stretch and also fixing the Ansible 
> project.
> 
> Regards
>            Racke
>

Hello,

in case Olivier doesn't respond soon, I'll try the 
https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:htmlmetatags plugin
to keep sympa.org content out of the search engines.

Regards
        Racke

>>
>>
>>> Regards
>>>          Racke
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 11:12:19 +0900
>>>> IKEDA Soji <address@concealed> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Olivier,
>>>>>
>>>>> Links with teletype text are broken (used frequently in the
>>>>> document).  See attached screen shot.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the present, could you please change the links in menu to the
>>>>> pages in sympa-community.github.com?  It looks required to be
>>>>> checked carefully before it will be available enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or, as I have been telling, it would be better to assign a new CNAME
>>>>> record to GitHub Pages site:
>>>>>   https://help.github.com/en/articles/setting-up-a-custom-subdomain
>>>>>
>>>>> It's easy, and we no longer will worry about duplicate contents.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> -- Soji
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 12:48:18 +0200
>>>>> David Verdin <address@concealed> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to what I said a few months ago, our web designer worked on 
>>>>>> the Sympa web site and reached three goals:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1- Setting a new skin with the new, community-validated logo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2- Pluging the site to Sympa community: the manual in the Sympa web 
>>>>>> site 
>>>>>> is now directly generated from the Markdown pages in 
>>>>>> https://github.com/sympa-community/gpldoc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3- Removing federated login (note that you will need to create 
>>>>>> credentials on the new web site, and we'll need to designate people 
>>>>>> with 
>>>>>> admin rights on the wiki.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a basic agreement to move the server to an area where people 
>>>>>> from 
>>>>>> the community would get administrative rights. I just lack a way to 
>>>>>> officialize the fact that people accessing the esrver would not use it 
>>>>>> to bad ends, such as stealing personal data, sending spam and such. Do 
>>>>>> you have any idea about how to do this? I'd like to harvest consent 
>>>>>> from 
>>>>>> future admins about theis engagement to good behaviour. Nothing too 
>>>>>> formal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe you did this someplace else. If yes, any feedback is welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the meantime, enjoy: https://www.sympa.org/index
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mieux vaut viser la perfection et la rater que viser la médiocrité et 
>>>>>> l'atteindre."
>>>>>> - Francis Blanche
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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