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  • From: David Carter <address@concealed>
  • To: Youcef N Baouchi <address@concealed>
  • Cc: address@concealed
  • Subject: Re: [sympa-users] disabling "-request" alias
  • Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 06:44:22 +0000

On 2021-01-11 05:05, Youcef N Baouchi wrote:
Hi Soji,

A screenshot is attached. For some reason the -request address
sometimes gets cached which causes people to email -request alias
instead of the actual list. But when I look at the headers the
-request address is in the sender field not the from field.

Given:

From: <email>
Sender: address@concealed

Outlook will display:

address@concealed on behalf of <email>

This has always been Microsoft's interpretation of https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5322 :

3.6.2. Originator Fields

...

The originator fields indicate the mailbox(es) of the source of the
message. The "From:" field specifies the author(s) of the message,
that is, the mailbox(es) of the person(s) or system(s) responsible
for the writing of the message. The "Sender:" field specifies the
mailbox of the agent responsible for the actual transmission of the
message. For example, if a secretary were to send a message for
another person, the mailbox of the secretary would appear in the
"Sender:" field and the mailbox of the actual author would appear in
the "From:" field. If the originator of the message can be indicated
by a single mailbox and the author and transmitter are identical, the
"Sender:" field SHOULD NOT be used. Otherwise, both fields SHOULD
appear.

It looks like they focused on the bit which reads "if a secretary were to send a message for another person".

Sympa isn't doing anything wrong: other Mailing List Managers also add Sender: headers.

I guess there is an argument for not adding a Sender: header given that the last sentence is a SHOULD rather than a MUST.



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