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[Scot Wilcoxon <address@concealed>]

I don't see a 'bulk' process.  It also isn't in /etc/init.d/sympa as a
daemon which should be started.

$ ps fax | grep -i sympa
12133 pts/0    S+     0:00              \_ grep -i sympa
 4914 ?        S      0:33  |   \_ /usr/bin/perl
-U /dev/fd/3//home/sympa/bin/wwsympa.fcgi
 4930 ?        S      0:19  |   \_ /usr/bin/perl
-U /dev/fd/3//home/sympa/bin/wwsympa.fcgi
13009 ?        S      0:18 /usr/bin/perl /home/sympa/bin/sympa.pl
13021 ?        S      0:02 /usr/bin/perl /home/sympa/bin/archived.pl
13036 ?        S      0:24 /usr/bin/perl /home/sympa/bin/task_manager.pl
13041 ?        S      0:01 /usr/bin/perl /home/sympa/bin/bounced.pl


On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 20:59 +0100, David Verdin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just a quick question: is your bulk.pl daemon running?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David
> 
> Le 23/03/11 20:33, Scot Wilcoxon a écrit : 
> > I don't remember previous_email in any configuration files.
> > 
> > The only scenari use of previous_email are:
> > ./default/scenari/subscribe.owner:is_subscriber([listname],[previous_email])
> >  smtp,smime,md5    -> do_it
> > ./default/scenari/subscribe.auth_owner:is_subscriber([listname],[previous_email])
> >  md5,smime -> do_it
> > 
> > The logs also don't say that anything failed due to that.  There are
> > many more log entries, but I don't see any keywords which indicate a
> > problem.
> > 
> > Isn't there a "Sympa Status" page which shows the status of what is
> > currently happening, or what recently happened?  Going to each
> > individual list to see if something is waiting to be moderated is
> > awkward when there are dozens of lists.  Seeing that something is stuck
> > in a queue seems to be even more awkward to accomplish...but I haven't
> > been able to find anything reporting that something tried or failed to
> > reach a queue.
> > 
> > I think this is the end of the log entries for the attempt to send:
> > 
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()  
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()  
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify()
> > (is_subscriber([listname],[sender])) 
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify()
> > (is_editor([listname],[sender])) 
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify()
> > (is_owner([listname],[sender])) 
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify() (true()) 
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug SympaSession::store()  
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug SympaSession::renew()
> > id_session=(60874436625054) 
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug SympaSession::get_random()
> > SympaSession::random  
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug SympaSession::set_cookie()
> > Session::set_cookie(localhost,session,secure= 0) 
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Language::SetLang()
> > Language::SetLang(en_US) 
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Language::SetLang()
> > Language::SetLang(us) 
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug Language::PushLang()
> > Language::PushLang(en_US) 
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Language::SetLang()
> > Language::SetLang(en_US) 
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug Language::PopLang()  
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Language::SetLang()
> > Language::SetLang(en_US) 
> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Language::SetLang()
> > Language::SetLang(en_US) 
> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 mail::reaper() Reaper
> > unwaited pids :  Open = 0 
> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 List::init_list_cache()
> > List::init_list_cache() 
> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300924492.ACTION.purge_session_table._global)
> >  
> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300924493.ACTION.purge_one_time_ticket_table._global)
> >  
> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300924554.ACTION.purge_tables._global) 
> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300972529.ACTION.purge_logs_table._global)
> >  
> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300972664.ACTION.expire_bounce._global) 
> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300972728.ACTION.eval_bouncers._global) 
> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1301056420.ACTION.process_bouncers._global)
> >  
> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1302179433.ACTION.purge_user_table._global)
> >  
> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1302179500.ACTION.purge_orphan_bounces._global)
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 14:55 -0400, Dan Pritts wrote:
> > > this looks odd:
> > > 
> > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug Scenario::verify() undefine
> > > variable context [previous_email] in rule
> > > is_subscriber([listname],[previous_email]) 
> > > 
> > > I see previous_email in a couple of the default "subscribe" scenari.  
> > > If you've used
> > > it in a send scenario, I suspect that's your problem.
> > > 
> > > On Mar 23, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Scot Wilcoxon wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Nothing is being sent by Sympa.  How do I get logging which reports 
> > > > what
> > > > is failing?  I'm running with debug level 2, and there are a lot of 
> > > > log
> > > > entries created, but none of them seem to be saying that there is a
> > > > failure.
> > > > 
> > > > Postfix log shows no messages coming out.  (Postfix configuration and
> > > > aliases are defined)  Postfix does deliver messages to Sympa, and the
> > > > incoming message does appear in the list's archive.
> > > > 
> > > > I checked the queue permissions, as suggested in the FAQ "All messages
> > > > are lost".  User sympa has permissions to queue directories, and the
> > > > queue program is setuid sympa.
> > > > 
> > > > When I use wws to send a text message to a list, I see the message
> > > > appear in the Archive, I see log entries about the number of
> > > > subscribers, but I don't see log entries about messages being emailed.
> > > > 
> > > > I also don't see anything to be moderated, so the message is not
> > > > awaiting moderation.
> > > > 
> > > > Is there a summary page that shows all queued moderations and other
> > > > actions?  Maybe I'm just not seeing something which is causing a 
> > > > global
> > > > blockage or slowdown.  I'm only aware of how to check the status of
> > > > individual lists, and I haven't found a summary of everything 
> > > > happening
> > > > in the Sympa installation.
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe log entries like this are supposed to mean something, but I'm 
> > > > not
> > > > seeing any words like "warning", "error", or "failure", so I don't 
> > > > know
> > > > if anything like this looks unusual:
> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify() (true()) 
> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug List::check_list_authz()
> > > > List::check_list_authz subscribe,md5 
> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug Scenario::request_action()
> > > > List::request_action subscribe,md5,newsletters.bizmeasure.com 
> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()  
> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()  
> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify()
> > > > (is_subscriber([listname],[previous_email])) 
> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug Scenario::verify() undefine
> > > > variable context [previous_email] in rule
> > > > is_subscriber([listname],[previous_email]) 
> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify() (true()) 
> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug List::check_list_authz()
> > > > List::check_list_authz web_archive.access,md5 
> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug Scenario::request_action()
> > > > List::request_action 
> > > > web_archive.access,md5,newsletters.bizmeasure.com 
> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()  
> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > danno
> > > --
> > > Dan Pritts, Sr. Systems Engineer
> > > Internet2
> > > office: +1-734-352-4953 | mobile: +1-734-834-7224
> > > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> David Verdin
> Comité réseau des universités
> 
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