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[Scot Wilcoxon <address@concealed>]

This is version 6, and I did upgrade recently.  I don't see a script
called "symba" in bin, and I didn't notice where in the install
instructions was a script update.

On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 12:25 -0700, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote:
> What version is this?  If you upgraded from pre-6 to 6, you didn't 
>  update the init script.
> 
>  On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:51:31 -0500, Scot Wilcoxon wrote:
> > I don't see a 'bulk' process.  It also isn't in /etc/init.d/sympa as 
> > a
> > daemon which should be started.
> >
> > $ ps fax | grep -i sympa
> > 12133 pts/0    S+     0:00              \_ grep -i sympa
> >  4914 ?        S      0:33  |   \_ /usr/bin/perl
> > -U /dev/fd/3//home/sympa/bin/wwsympa.fcgi
> >  4930 ?        S      0:19  |   \_ /usr/bin/perl
> > -U /dev/fd/3//home/sympa/bin/wwsympa.fcgi
> > 13009 ?        S      0:18 /usr/bin/perl /home/sympa/bin/sympa.pl
> > 13021 ?        S      0:02 /usr/bin/perl /home/sympa/bin/archived.pl
> > 13036 ?        S      0:24 /usr/bin/perl 
> > /home/sympa/bin/task_manager.pl
> > 13041 ?        S      0:01 /usr/bin/perl /home/sympa/bin/bounced.pl
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 20:59 +0100, David Verdin wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Just a quick question: is your bulk.pl daemon running?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> Le 23/03/11 20:33, Scot Wilcoxon a écrit :
> >> > I don't remember previous_email in any configuration files.
> >> >
> >> > The only scenari use of previous_email are:
> >> > 
> >> ./default/scenari/subscribe.owner:is_subscriber([listname],[previous_email])
> >>  
> >> smtp,smime,md5    -> do_it
> >> > 
> >> ./default/scenari/subscribe.auth_owner:is_subscriber([listname],[previous_email])
> >>  
> >> md5,smime -> do_it
> >> >
> >> > The logs also don't say that anything failed due to that.  There 
> >> are
> >> > many more log entries, but I don't see any keywords which indicate 
> >> a
> >> > problem.
> >> >
> >> > Isn't there a "Sympa Status" page which shows the status of what 
> >> is
> >> > currently happening, or what recently happened?  Going to each
> >> > individual list to see if something is waiting to be moderated is
> >> > awkward when there are dozens of lists.  Seeing that something is 
> >> stuck
> >> > in a queue seems to be even more awkward to accomplish...but I 
> >> haven't
> >> > been able to find anything reporting that something tried or 
> >> failed to
> >> > reach a queue.
> >> >
> >> > I think this is the end of the log entries for the attempt to 
> >> send:
> >> >
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify()
> >> > (is_subscriber([listname],[sender]))
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify()
> >> > (is_editor([listname],[sender]))
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify()
> >> > (is_owner([listname],[sender]))
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify() 
> >> (true())
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug SympaSession::store()
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug SympaSession::renew()
> >> > id_session=(60874436625054)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug 
> >> SympaSession::get_random()
> >> > SympaSession::random
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug 
> >> SympaSession::set_cookie()
> >> > Session::set_cookie(localhost,session,secure= 0)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Language::SetLang()
> >> > Language::SetLang(en_US)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Language::SetLang()
> >> > Language::SetLang(us)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug Language::PushLang()
> >> > Language::PushLang(en_US)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Language::SetLang()
> >> > Language::SetLang(en_US)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug Language::PopLang()
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Language::SetLang()
> >> > Language::SetLang(en_US)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Language::SetLang()
> >> > Language::SetLang(en_US)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 mail::reaper() 
> >> Reaper
> >> > unwaited pids :  Open = 0
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 
> >> List::init_list_cache()
> >> > List::init_list_cache()
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> >> > 
> >> Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300924492.ACTION.purge_session_table._global)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> >> > 
> >> Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300924493.ACTION.purge_one_time_ticket_table._global)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> >> > 
> >> Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300924554.ACTION.purge_tables._global)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> >> > 
> >> Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300972529.ACTION.purge_logs_table._global)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> >> > 
> >> Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300972664.ACTION.expire_bounce._global)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> >> > 
> >> Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300972728.ACTION.eval_bouncers._global)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> >> > 
> >> Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1301056420.ACTION.process_bouncers._global)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> >> > 
> >> Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1302179433.ACTION.purge_user_table._global)
> >> > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> >> > 
> >> Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1302179500.ACTION.purge_orphan_bounces._global)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 14:55 -0400, Dan Pritts wrote:
> >> > > this looks odd:
> >> > >
> >> > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug Scenario::verify() 
> >> undefine
> >> > > variable context [previous_email] in rule
> >> > > is_subscriber([listname],[previous_email])
> >> > >
> >> > > I see previous_email in a couple of the default "subscribe" 
> >> scenari.  If you've used
> >> > > it in a send scenario, I suspect that's your problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mar 23, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Scot Wilcoxon wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Nothing is being sent by Sympa.  How do I get logging which 
> >> reports what
> >> > > > is failing?  I'm running with debug level 2, and there are a 
> >> lot of log
> >> > > > entries created, but none of them seem to be saying that there 
> >> is a
> >> > > > failure.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Postfix log shows no messages coming out.  (Postfix 
> >> configuration and
> >> > > > aliases are defined)  Postfix does deliver messages to Sympa, 
> >> and the
> >> > > > incoming message does appear in the list's archive.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I checked the queue permissions, as suggested in the FAQ "All 
> >> messages
> >> > > > are lost".  User sympa has permissions to queue directories, 
> >> and the
> >> > > > queue program is setuid sympa.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > When I use wws to send a text message to a list, I see the 
> >> message
> >> > > > appear in the Archive, I see log entries about the number of
> >> > > > subscribers, but I don't see log entries about messages being 
> >> emailed.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I also don't see anything to be moderated, so the message is 
> >> not
> >> > > > awaiting moderation.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Is there a summary page that shows all queued moderations and 
> >> other
> >> > > > actions?  Maybe I'm just not seeing something which is causing 
> >> a global
> >> > > > blockage or slowdown.  I'm only aware of how to check the 
> >> status of
> >> > > > individual lists, and I haven't found a summary of everything 
> >> happening
> >> > > > in the Sympa installation.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Maybe log entries like this are supposed to mean something, 
> >> but I'm not
> >> > > > seeing any words like "warning", "error", or "failure", so I 
> >> don't know
> >> > > > if anything like this looks unusual:
> >> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify() 
> >> (true())
> >> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug 
> >> List::check_list_authz()
> >> > > > List::check_list_authz subscribe,md5
> >> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug 
> >> Scenario::request_action()
> >> > > > List::request_action subscribe,md5,newsletters.bizmeasure.com
> >> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()
> >> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()
> >> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify()
> >> > > > (is_subscriber([listname],[previous_email]))
> >> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug Scenario::verify() 
> >> undefine
> >> > > > variable context [previous_email] in rule
> >> > > > is_subscriber([listname],[previous_email])
> >> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify() 
> >> (true())
> >> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug 
> >> List::check_list_authz()
> >> > > > List::check_list_authz web_archive.access,md5
> >> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug 
> >> Scenario::request_action()
> >> > > > List::request_action 
> >> web_archive.access,md5,newsletters.bizmeasure.com
> >> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()
> >> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > danno
> >> > > --
> >> > > Dan Pritts, Sr. Systems Engineer
> >> > > Internet2
> >> > > office: +1-734-352-4953 | mobile: +1-734-834-7224
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Verdin
> >> Comité réseau des universités
> >>
> >> Due to the limitations of human brain, I fail to remember all the
> >> mails.
> >> So if you want your bug reports or feature requests for Sympa to be
> >> processed, please post them to the Sympa tracker
>