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["Roger B.A. Klorese" <address@concealed>]

What version is this?  If you upgraded from pre-6 to 6, you didn't 
update the init script.

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:51:31 -0500, Scot Wilcoxon wrote:
> I don't see a 'bulk' process.  It also isn't in /etc/init.d/sympa as 
> a
> daemon which should be started.
>
> $ ps fax | grep -i sympa
> 12133 pts/0    S+     0:00              \_ grep -i sympa
>  4914 ?        S      0:33  |   \_ /usr/bin/perl
> -U /dev/fd/3//home/sympa/bin/wwsympa.fcgi
>  4930 ?        S      0:19  |   \_ /usr/bin/perl
> -U /dev/fd/3//home/sympa/bin/wwsympa.fcgi
> 13009 ?        S      0:18 /usr/bin/perl /home/sympa/bin/sympa.pl
> 13021 ?        S      0:02 /usr/bin/perl /home/sympa/bin/archived.pl
> 13036 ?        S      0:24 /usr/bin/perl 
> /home/sympa/bin/task_manager.pl
> 13041 ?        S      0:01 /usr/bin/perl /home/sympa/bin/bounced.pl
>
>
> On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 20:59 +0100, David Verdin wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just a quick question: is your bulk.pl daemon running?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > David
> >
> > Le 23/03/11 20:33, Scot Wilcoxon a écrit :
> > > I don't remember previous_email in any configuration files.
> > >
> > > The only scenari use of previous_email are:
> > > 
> > ./default/scenari/subscribe.owner:is_subscriber([listname],[previous_email]) 
> > smtp,smime,md5    -> do_it
> > > 
> > ./default/scenari/subscribe.auth_owner:is_subscriber([listname],[previous_email]) 
> > md5,smime -> do_it
> > >
> > > The logs also don't say that anything failed due to that.  There 
> > are
> > > many more log entries, but I don't see any keywords which indicate 
> > a
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > Isn't there a "Sympa Status" page which shows the status of what 
> > is
> > > currently happening, or what recently happened?  Going to each
> > > individual list to see if something is waiting to be moderated is
> > > awkward when there are dozens of lists.  Seeing that something is 
> > stuck
> > > in a queue seems to be even more awkward to accomplish...but I 
> > haven't
> > > been able to find anything reporting that something tried or 
> > failed to
> > > reach a queue.
> > >
> > > I think this is the end of the log entries for the attempt to 
> > send:
> > >
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify()
> > > (is_subscriber([listname],[sender]))
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify()
> > > (is_editor([listname],[sender]))
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify()
> > > (is_owner([listname],[sender]))
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify() 
> > (true())
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug SympaSession::store()
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug SympaSession::renew()
> > > id_session=(60874436625054)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug 
> > SympaSession::get_random()
> > > SympaSession::random
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug 
> > SympaSession::set_cookie()
> > > Session::set_cookie(localhost,session,secure= 0)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Language::SetLang()
> > > Language::SetLang(en_US)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Language::SetLang()
> > > Language::SetLang(us)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug Language::PushLang()
> > > Language::PushLang(en_US)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Language::SetLang()
> > > Language::SetLang(en_US)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug Language::PopLang()
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Language::SetLang()
> > > Language::SetLang(en_US)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:53 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Language::SetLang()
> > > Language::SetLang(en_US)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 mail::reaper() 
> > Reaper
> > > unwaited pids :  Open = 0
> > > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 
> > List::init_list_cache()
> > > List::init_list_cache()
> > > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > > 
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300924492.ACTION.purge_session_table._global)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > > 
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300924493.ACTION.purge_one_time_ticket_table._global)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > > 
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300924554.ACTION.purge_tables._global)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > > 
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300972529.ACTION.purge_logs_table._global)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > > 
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300972664.ACTION.expire_bounce._global)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > > 
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1300972728.ACTION.eval_bouncers._global)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > > 
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1301056420.ACTION.process_bouncers._global)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > > 
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1302179433.ACTION.purge_user_table._global)
> > > Mar 23 13:30:55 dev task_manager[27447]: debug2 Task::new()
> > > 
> > Task::new(/home/sympa/spool/task/1302179500.ACTION.purge_orphan_bounces._global)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 14:55 -0400, Dan Pritts wrote:
> > > > this looks odd:
> > > >
> > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug Scenario::verify() 
> > undefine
> > > > variable context [previous_email] in rule
> > > > is_subscriber([listname],[previous_email])
> > > >
> > > > I see previous_email in a couple of the default "subscribe" 
> > scenari.  If you've used
> > > > it in a send scenario, I suspect that's your problem.
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 23, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Scot Wilcoxon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Nothing is being sent by Sympa.  How do I get logging which 
> > reports what
> > > > > is failing?  I'm running with debug level 2, and there are a 
> > lot of log
> > > > > entries created, but none of them seem to be saying that there 
> > is a
> > > > > failure.
> > > > >
> > > > > Postfix log shows no messages coming out.  (Postfix 
> > configuration and
> > > > > aliases are defined)  Postfix does deliver messages to Sympa, 
> > and the
> > > > > incoming message does appear in the list's archive.
> > > > >
> > > > > I checked the queue permissions, as suggested in the FAQ "All 
> > messages
> > > > > are lost".  User sympa has permissions to queue directories, 
> > and the
> > > > > queue program is setuid sympa.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I use wws to send a text message to a list, I see the 
> > message
> > > > > appear in the Archive, I see log entries about the number of
> > > > > subscribers, but I don't see log entries about messages being 
> > emailed.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also don't see anything to be moderated, so the message is 
> > not
> > > > > awaiting moderation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a summary page that shows all queued moderations and 
> > other
> > > > > actions?  Maybe I'm just not seeing something which is causing 
> > a global
> > > > > blockage or slowdown.  I'm only aware of how to check the 
> > status of
> > > > > individual lists, and I haven't found a summary of everything 
> > happening
> > > > > in the Sympa installation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe log entries like this are supposed to mean something, 
> > but I'm not
> > > > > seeing any words like "warning", "error", or "failure", so I 
> > don't know
> > > > > if anything like this looks unusual:
> > > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify() 
> > (true())
> > > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug 
> > List::check_list_authz()
> > > > > List::check_list_authz subscribe,md5
> > > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug 
> > Scenario::request_action()
> > > > > List::request_action subscribe,md5,newsletters.bizmeasure.com
> > > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()
> > > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()
> > > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify()
> > > > > (is_subscriber([listname],[previous_email]))
> > > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug Scenario::verify() 
> > undefine
> > > > > variable context [previous_email] in rule
> > > > > is_subscriber([listname],[previous_email])
> > > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::verify() 
> > (true())
> > > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug 
> > List::check_list_authz()
> > > > > List::check_list_authz web_archive.access,md5
> > > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug 
> > Scenario::request_action()
> > > > > List::request_action 
> > web_archive.access,md5,newsletters.bizmeasure.com
> > > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()
> > > > > Mar 23 13:15:07 dev wwsympa[4914]: debug2 Scenario::new()
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > danno
> > > > --
> > > > Dan Pritts, Sr. Systems Engineer
> > > > Internet2
> > > > office: +1-734-352-4953 | mobile: +1-734-834-7224
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > David Verdin
> > Comité réseau des universités
> >
> > Due to the limitations of human brain, I fail to remember all the
> > mails.
> > So if you want your bug reports or feature requests for Sympa to be
> > processed, please post them to the Sympa tracker