Developers of Sympa

[IKEDA Soji <address@concealed>]

@eiro,

In sympa-communuty/dotorg issue #1, at 2018-06-09 2:54 GMT+9:

> the plan during the hackathon was to ask renater to provide an
> hosting solution. I handled it and they even made a better
> proposition that the one i asked for (they just need time) ....
> then someone decided it's not enough ... closing this ticket is a
> bad idea but i can provide not even a start of a valid explanation
> .... actually it sadden me.

Really? I haven't known there is a plan to "ask renater to provide
an hosting solution", before I read this comment by you.  Why didn't
you write it in the first comment in 2018-05-24?

Anyway, let's assume you are right. It follows that David wrote a
lie in hackathon report. --- Because he didn't state, merely suggest
that there is such a plan.  Otherwise, did you wrote a lie?


I guess the fact was neither.  Maybe the fact was that ---

- Someone(s) told about preparation of infrastructure;
- a few of them probably imagined names of providors;
- however, there was not in-depth discussion among attendees to
  choose particular providor.

- You heard it, and _believed_ RENATER is the best providor.  Then
  you requestd RENATER for VM and DNS RR as soon as you could do.

Would you please think over --- what did go wrong?

                                 *

I'm sincerely sorry you feel sad.  However, I think it is not my
fault.  As long as you behave like this time, you will be rolled up
in similar frictions any times.

Therefore, I want to ask you for two points:

1. Please understand that your belief is not always thought of
  everyone else.

  Anyone cannot know what you are thinking in your mind, nor why you
  are thinking such, unless you explain.

  Before argueing "I believe it SHOULD be ...", please spend enough
  time to explan "I think ... BECAUSE I think ...".

2. Please try to share your time with others.

  Probably, you are interested in whether your plan will be
  supported by others or not.
  However, others spend their time to hear your opinion and to
  examine it.  Stating your opinoin is naturally consuming time of
  others.

  In fact, if your proposal was objected, you occasinally leave
  discussion, and when you want to request something, you come back.
  Such behavior is the same as unilaterally taking over time of others.

  Before telling what you want to tell, please spend your time to
  hear what others are telling.

If you really wish success of Sympa community, please keep above in
your mind.


Regards,
-- Soji

Though I don't say I usually behave as I wrote. ;-)


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