Developers of Sympa

[IKEDA Soji <address@concealed>]

Sorry, I cited wrong link.

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 18:36:44 +0900
IKEDA Soji <address@concealed> wrote:

> I think "(my) doubts about RENATER" or "failure in last year of
> RENATER" are not accurate understanding about current status of
> them.
> 
> In fact, once RENATER have paused support to Sympa in a moment of
> time in the past.  See this thread to know what occurred just after
> David left:
> 
>   
> https://listes.renater.fr/sympa/arcsearch_id/sympa-developpers/2016-08/20160802112851.7679b9010243f7cd21b483e5%40conversion.co.jp

https://listes.renater.fr/sympa/arcsearch_id/sympa-developpers/2016-09/20160905174651.d6a3cc481b458198f1c1f7d6%40conversion.co.jp


> However, do NOT misunderstand that I think RENATER, or person
> employed by them, is not trustworthy.
> 
> 
> I think RENATER's behavior above was reasonable.  If RENATER put
> another person for Sympa soon, your directer was rather abnormal.
> 
> Because, there is _no_ SLA between RENATER and Sympa community.
> RENATER may or may not provide or abort services for Sympa, because
> it is not their primary mission.
> 
> 
> That's why I hesitate to ask RENATER for support of infrastruscture.
> We would be better to choose proper providers presenting SLA about
> their services, GitHub, Netlify and so on.
> 
> Just only as a result by character of RENATER, their service is not
> so comfortable (their servers respond slower than providers above).
> 
> 
> In your post in Thursday, you described how RENATER have been
> supported Sympa.  However by this post, we also know that RENATER
> have shifted from infrastructure to human resource (empowerment).
> 
> Therefore, we have to stop slash-and-burn method by requesting them
> for non-human resources.
> 
> I'll note again: RENATER is not a provider of application or
> infrastructure, at least for development in generqal.
> 
> And, I ask RENATER folks in Sympa community: I don't expect you for
> obtaining hardware resource from RENATER (someone can expect,
> though ;-)).  Please thinking over what you contribute to community.
> 
> 
> Addition:
> 
> Please try to investigate use of proper service providers (I tell a
> few names in above).
> 
> Their services are enough to realize our plan, before thinkng
> RENATER's help --- moreover, provide higher quality, isn't it?
> 
> 
> Sorry for unexpectedly long post.
> 
> Regards,
> -- Soji
> 
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