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I definitely need it back - we are stuck at old Perl for at least a few months and therefore old Sympa. In fact, we really need a 6.0 backport...

On 5/14/15 7:35 AM, Hatuka*nezumi - IKEDA Soji wrote:

I patched Sympa-6.2b according to the suggestion by rogerk.

I can't deside whether this change would be backported to 6.1 or not.  Will people be satisfied by switching to 6.2, or keep 6.1 and want this feature?

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2015/05/14 5:31、address@concealed のメッセージ:

(Re-sending to the list.)

Fair enough and, yes, my error - in some other MLMs, -owner is used as the envelope address but also as a contact address. But I see that -owner goes to bouncequeue, and -request goes to queue. So yes, the issue is with -request.

On 5/13/15 1:20 AM, David Verdin wrote:

address@concealed"> Oh. I misunderstood your problem because, basically, the owners address is in -request, not -owner. -owner is used for bounces. I take it you changed this behaviour in Sympa?

So Indeed, you have a problem. I think we should change the from field when sending to the owners contact address if it belongs to a domain with a paranoid DMARC policy.

I'll check hos to do this soon.

Regards,

David

Le 13/05/15 09:52, address@concealed a écrit :

If an end-user with an AOL or Yahoo account wants to write to the administrators of the list "address@concealed" they write to "address@concealed" - the mail is then delivered to the listed owners of the list. If those owners have accounts at sites that use DMARC, the policy is applied to the From: address - which is @aol.com or @yahoo.com but is NOT delivered from a valid server for those domains, and the mail to the list-owners is rejected. This keeps users from being able to contact owners off-list unless they make their direct email addresses known to the subscribers, which most of our list-owner prefer not to do.

On 5/13/15 12:24 AM, David Verdin wrote:

Honestly, I doubt it.
-owner is the return-path address. It is the opne used to get errors. I don't see how this could be used for sending fishings.

Not to Sympa, at least: I understand you could use this address to fake an error and include a link to be clicked by a human reader, but Sympa will simply try to evaluate this message to increment an error rate for a user.
So, on my opinion, from the strict Sympa point of view, you should not re-address the return path.

Cheers,

David

Le 13/05/15 02:25, address@concealed a écrit :

I just had mail sent to a -owner address rejected because it came through us with an AOL From: address. Should our DMARC code also re-address mail forwarded by the -owner address?

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