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[Brian Eliassen <address@concealed>]

Hello Steve,

Thank you for your suggestions as it has to be a simple "oops, I  
missed that" at this point but it's not obvious.  Since Google isn't  
helping me, others using Sendmail are not seeing this.  If I can just  
get over this final hump, everything should be good.  Here is what you  
mentioned.

All DNS appears to be proper:

frodo:root [306] /etc/mail> dig scrapcombatships.com

; <<>> DiG 9.10.1-P1 <<>> scrapcombatships.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 14809
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;scrapcombatships.com.          IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
scrapcombatships.com.   86400   IN      A       208.127.57.100

frodo:root [307] /etc/mail> dig magnumopusproductions.com

; <<>> DiG 9.10.1-P1 <<>> magnumopusproductions.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47674
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;magnumopusproductions.com.     IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
magnumopusproductions.com. 86400 IN     A       208.127.57.100

My sympa_aliases file is one of the standard files included in my  
"update" script which does the following:

frodo:root [304] /etc/mail> cat update
#!/bin/sh
cd /etc/mail
makemap hash virtusertable.db < virtusertable
makemap hash access.db < access
makemap hash aliases.db < aliases
makemap hash majordomo-aliases.db < majordomo-aliases
makemap hash sympa_aliases.db < sympa_aliases
newaliases
tail -f /var/log/mail.log

It appears that sympa_aliases is getting updated properly:
-rw-r--r--   1 sympa    root        1804 Feb  5 03:03 sympa_aliases
-rw-r-----   1 root     root       49152 Feb  6 10:21 sympa_aliases.db

Here is the relevant part of my sendmail.mc file:
define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/mail/aliases,/etc/mail/majordomo-aliases,/ 
etc/mail/sympa_aliases')dnl

Here is the inserted entry in my sendmail.cf file:
O AliasFile=/etc/mail/aliases,/etc/mail/majordomo-aliases,/etc/mail/ 
sympa_aliases

So I figured sympa_aliases may not be looked at so I did this:
frodo:root [314] /etc/mail> sendmail -bv address@concealed
"| /usr/local/sympa/bin/queue address@concealed"...  
deliverable: mailer prog, user "| /usr/local/sympa/bin/queue address@concealed 
"

Whoa!  See how it's pointing to address@concealed  
instead of address@concealed?  I think that's due to the  
"sympa:" alias in my /etc/mail/aliases file.  So I then tried to hit  
one of the testlist lines in sympa_aliases:
frodo:root [315] /etc/mail> sendmail -bv 
address@concealed
"| /usr/local/sympa/bin/queue address@concealed"...  
deliverable: mailer prog, user "| /usr/local/sympa/bin/queue address@concealed 
"

Works perfectly.  So how do I get sendmail to see "address@concealed 
" as "address@concealed"?  I think  
the fact that "address@concealed" does not exist is why  
this problem is occurring.  The sympa_aliases were created by the  
Sympa WebGUI.

frodo:root [316] /etc/mail> sendmail -bv address@concealed
address@concealed... User unknown

As I mentioned, I'm at a loss.  I've been doing sendmail for twenty  
years and I'm not able to comprehend how Sympa can get  
"scrapcombatships.com-testlist" to respond to "To:address@concealed 
" in the envelope.  Did I miss a needed R$ envelope rule modification?

Brian


On Feb 12, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Steve Shipway wrote:

> A couple of pointers.
>
> First, make sure that your DNS records for scrapcombatships.com and
> magnumopusproductions.com are both A records pointing to the same IP
> address.  If you use a CNAME, then some mail implementations will  
> change
> recipient email addresses to the canonical name... this can cause  
> confusion.
>
> Next, your sympa_aliases file looks correct.  Have you rebuilt it  
> (using
> newaliases ) so that the corresponding sympa_aliases.db exists and  
> is the
> same age or newer?
>
> Now check that your sendmail.cf actually refers to this file.  Look  
> for the
> 'O AliasFile=/etc/aliases' -- this tells sendmail.to use /etc/ 
> aliases, but
> do you have anything telling it to also use /etc/mail/ 
> sympa_aliases ?  You
> need to have in your sendmail.cf instead:
>
> O AliasFile=/etc/aliases,/etc/mail/sympa_aliases
>
> Or, if you are using m5, then in your sendmail.mc
>
> define('ALIAS_FILE', '/etc/aliases,/etc/mail/Sympa_aliases')dnl
>
> Take a look at the documentation in here:
> http://www.sympa.org/manual/mail-aliases and this should help you.
>
> HTH
>
> Steve
>
> Steve Shipway
> address@concealed