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[Paul Menzel <address@concealed>]

Dear David,


Am Mittwoch, den 21.01.2009, 11:02 +0100 schrieb David Verdin: 
> Hi and sorry for the late answer. I was buried in the 5.4.5 finalisation. ;)

No problem and thank you for your fine work with Sympa. 

> The Sympa wiki uses Sympa authorization. Shortly: the access rights 
> depend on list subscription.
> All our services use now Shibboleth authentication (see: 
> http://shibboleth.internet2.edu/). You authenticate to our Shibboleth 
> identity provider (which we call the "CRU accounts") and it send to the 
> applications the attributes needed for authorization. Namely your email 
> address.
> consequently, you must set up a CRU account to be able to log into the 
> wiki or the Sympa web interface. The good news is that you have only one 
> login or password for both services. They share  single sign on through 
> Shibboleth, and Sympa has the role of group manager, handling all the 
> authorizations for the wiki edition.
> The bad news is that Sympa is now unable to send you a password 
> reminder, because all these passwords are handled by Shibboleth.
> 
> So, you must create a "comptes CRU" in which your user name is the full 
> email address with which you are subscribed.

Understood. Thank you for your explanation. One last question regarding
this issue.

What happened to the accounts formerly created using the old dialogue?
Were they deleted? So I just need to create a CRU account with this
address?

> So, to comment you email:
> 
> Paul Menzel a écrit :
> > I am still having problems to log in. I found out how to get to a dialog
> > where I can enter a username and password by trying to subscribe to
> > another list.
> >   
> Could you give me the URL to this dialog? It should not appear. Giving a 
> username and password directly to Sympa will fatally lead to a failed login.

Go to [2] not being logged in, select a list and the Subscribe. It is
asked for your username and password afterwards [3].

[2] https://listes.cru.fr/lists/informatique/sympa
[3] https://listes.cru.fr/sympa/subscribe/sympa-dev

[…]

> > What am I doing wrong. As written in a different message on the left
> > side there is also only a button with Connexion display which directs me
> > to the CRU-Login page [1]. There are no username or password fields.
> >   
> This is the right page. The one and only truth. ;)
> When you click on "connexion" on the list server or in the wiki, you are 
> redirected to a web page whose URL starts with 
> "https://federation.cru.fr/wayf/"; followed by a lot of arguments.
> In this page, click on the "Create your CRU account" button. A form is 
> then displayed in which you must at least fill your email address and a 
> password.
> Once you have submitted the form, a mail is sent to the address you 
> provided to confirm you account creation.
> You can then go back to the wiki or the Sympa interface. You click on 
> "connexion" and this time, click on the "Login with your CRU account" 
> button.
> On the next page, fill your email and password and submit. You are 
> logged in.
> Note that if you tick the checkbox below the "Login with your CRU 
> account" button, you will not be presented this page anymore and be 
> automatically redirected to the login page.
> 
> The account creation page can seem long, but remember that it provides 
> you a single sign on for both Sympa and Dokuwiki.
> We also use this system, along with the wiki farm functionality in 
> dokuwiki for working groups: we can automatically create a wiki for each 
> list, with the access rights defined by list subscription. this way, a 
> working group can have both a way to broadcast information (the mailing 
> list) and to create documents collboratively (the wiki).

Thank you very much for the detailled response.


Thanks,

Paul

> > [1] 
> > https://federation.cru.fr/wayf/?shire=https%3A%2F%2Flistes.cru.fr%2Fsympa%2Fsso_login%2Ffederation_cru%2FShibboleth.sso%2FSAML%2FPOST&time=1232527000&target=cookie&providerId=https%3A%2F%2Flistes.cru.fr%2Fsympa

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