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["Paul Borghese" <address@concealed>]

It worked!!!

Thanks everyone for your help!

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: David Verdin [mailto:address@concealed] 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:36 AM
To: Paul Borghese
Cc: address@concealed
Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Bounce score always zero?

Hi!

Paul Borghese a écrit :
> Ok I think I figured it out.  The minimum_bouncing_period can be described
> as follows:
>
> "Collect all the bounced over the bouncing_period (i.e. 10 days) then
> evaluate a score"
>
> So if it is under 10 days ... no score.
>
> Is that correct?
>   
Correct! :)
> In my sympa.conf, there is no minimum_bouncing_period defined.  Can I
simply
> define it in the sympa.conf?
>
>   
Yes.
> Once I go under sympa.conf and redefine the bouncing period, can I then
> force the scoring of the bounces to occur immediately?
>   
Well this score is evaluated when the eval_bouncers task is executed. So 
you must either wait its next occurrence or delete the task file so that 
is is recreated (next minute at the latest) and then executed.
> Thanks again for your help!
>   
You're welcome. :)

David
> Paul
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Verdin [mailto:address@concealed] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:36 AM
> To: Paul Borghese
> Cc: address@concealed
> Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Bounce score always zero?
>
> Keep in mind that the bouncing period is important.
> If the user bounces for a shorter period (in days) than the value of the 
> minimum_bouncing_period parameter, then the score won't be evaluated. 
> The default vlaue for this parameter is 10.
> As you user seems to be bouncing for only four days, it seems normal, 
> provided you didn't change this parameter value, that its score hasn't 
> been calculated yet.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul Borghese a écrit :
>   
>> Thanks David for the reply.
>>
>> For example, here is a user that has a bounce count of 0:
>>
>> Status : Bad destination mailbox address (5.1.1)
>> Bounce count : 222
>> Period : from 03 Mar 2008 to 06 Mar 2008
>>
>> Because the status is bad destination mailbox address, should not the
>>     
> bounce
>   
>> score jump to 100 and cause the recipient to be immediately removed?
>>
>> I added an address in a test list where the domain did not exist.  Yet
the
>> bounce score is still zero after a few days?
>>
>> By the way, where is the bounce count stored?  I could not find it in the
>> mysql database?
>>
>> Thanks again for your help!
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Verdin [mailto:address@concealed] 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:01 AM
>> To: Paul Borghese
>> Cc: address@concealed
>> Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Bounce score always zero?
>>
>> Yes, that's due to the bounce score computing method.
>> You will have all the details here :
>> https://www.sympa.org/manual/bounces#bounce_management
>>
>> Roughly, the bounce score stays to zero untils the bouncer reaches (and 
>> keeps) a reasonnable number of bounces when compared to the list's 
>> traffic and your own settings.
>> This "zero" values confuses a lot of people, and we are considering to 
>> change it to a message like "bounces activity not relevant yet".
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Paul Borghese a écrit :
>>   
>>     
>>> Any ideas as to why the bounce score on my bouncing users is always
zero.
>>> Even after a few hundred bounces?
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>   
>>     
>
>   

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David Verdin
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