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[Steven Peterson <address@concealed>]

Hi Olivier,

Thanks so much for the information.  So when I set a editor_include 
source of 'editorfile' (in the list config), are you saying that the 
file itself in the data_sources directory should be called 
'editorfile_*.incl*_'?  (With underscores and asterisks?)

- Steve


Olivier Salaün wrote:

> Hi Steven,
>
> As an introduction to this email I provide some background and news 
> about the user_data_source list parameter.
> In the former days Sympa did not use a RDBMS and subscribers 
> informations were stored in flat ''subscribers'' files. We then 
> introduced the ability to include members defined in an external data 
> source and also the optional use of a RDBMS to store subscribers. 
> Therefore we created the 'user_data_source' parameter. We ended up 
> merging the 'database' and 'include' features with 'include2'. The 
> goal was then to give up the 'user_data_source' parameter and we have 
> almost reached this goal. Starting with Sympa 5.3.x the 'include' mode 
> is considered a sinonym for 'include2' and more recently we have 
> removed the 'file' and 'database' modes in the development version of 
> Sympa. This means that in Sympa 5.4 the only supported mode will be 
> 'include2'. Note that migration process has been automated.
>
> Steven Peterson a écrit :
>
> > We would like to include the same two moderators in every list in a 
> > given robot, and I believe the list parameter editor_include allows 
> > for this but I am not sure how it works yet.
> >
> > 1. To which value do I need to set the user_data_source in order to 
> > use an editor_include data_source that has an include_file 
> > directive?  include or include2
>
> The editor_include and owner_include don't require a special value for 
> the user_data_source. The reason is that it was introduced in Sympa 
> after 'include2' was defined as the default mode.
>
> > o  When talking about data_sources, the manual seems to say that for 
> > any data_source to use the include_file directive, the 
> > user_data_source value for the robot must be set to 'include'
> >    http://www.sympa.org/wiki/manual/parameters-data-sources#include_file
>
> This page was not uptodate ; I've fixed it.
> Sorry about this mistake ; the behavior around user_data_source has 
> evolved quite a lot in Sympa along the versions.
>
> > o  But when the manual is talking about data_includes in list 
> > configuration, it seems to say the user_data_source must be set to 
> > 'include2'
> >    http://www.sympa.org/wiki/manual/list-definition#data_inclusion_file
> >
> > 2. If I use a local file path to the include_file parameter 
> > (editors.txt below), where is the path relative to (the data_sources 
> > directory?)
>
> I've fixed the sentence.
>
> > 3. Is the below configuration correct?
> >
> > robot.conf has:
> >  user_data_source include2
>
> You can't set the 'user_data_source' parameter in a robot.conf or 
> sympa.conf. It is a list configuration parameter ; it should be set in 
> the list 'config' file manually or via the web interface.
>
> > config file for list has:
> >  editor_include
> >  reception mail
> >  source editorfile
> >
> > data_sources/editorfile:
>
> Wrong ; the file should be 'data_sources/editorfile_*.incl*_'
>
> >  include_file ./editors.txt
>
> You should use an absolute file path because the sympa processes 
> perform chdir()
>
> > editors.txt:
> >  address@concealed Joe Blow
> >  address@concealed  Jane Doe
>
> Correct.
>
> I've completed the example provided in 
> https://www.sympa.org/wiki/manual/list-definition#data_inclusion_file 
> to provide complete file path.


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