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  • From: Olivier Salaün - CRU <address@concealed>
  • To: Jeff Abbott <address@concealed>
  • Cc: address@concealed
  • Subject: Re: [sympa-users] List Families
  • Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:24:39 +0100

Jeff Abbott wrote:

One of the areas where I believe the Sympa documentation is especially lacking is with regard to list families. In considering them for use at Duke, I'm wondering about how they're intended to be used and whether or not a list can be added to or removed from a family at will.

Yes a family list can be removed just like a "normal" list.
A single list can also be added to a family with 'sympa.pl --add_list', as described here : http://www.sympa.org/doc/html/node18.html#SECTION001825000000000000000

What caught my interest with families is, of course, the param_constraint.conf ability to restrict what people can change -- we have lots of lists here and I'd like to restrict people from being able to change settings on their lists which could affect other lists' ability to function. I'd like to have a basic bundle of families of different standard configurations, the majority of which would meet 85%+ of the users' needs here. The remaining ~15% would need one-off lists, independent of families, with configuration options specific to their list(s). Is this how families are intended to be used in Sympa, or is the idea that all lists will be stand- alone lists except for specific bundles (say, a small group of lists related to a specific research project) which would be a family?

The goal of list families is really to provide a set of lists with common options and editing rules. Currently family list creation is restricted to the command line but we wish to generalize families to replace existing create_list_templates.

Is it possible to take a family-based list and move it to another family,

We did not take this as a desired feature in the families design. What would be the goal of this operation ?

or to remove it from any family association at all and turn it into a stand-alone list?

You can do that, just removing the list's 'family' parameter.

I'd like to get a good grasp of how families work and are supposed to be used because I'd like to see if I can clean up, enhance, or add to the standard documentation on list families. I feel it's lagging behind the other sections in the documentation while being one of Sympa's more compelling features and I'd like to do what I can to remedy that lag.

That would be a great contribution to the reference manual.
PLease let us know if you need additional technical information...

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