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  • From: Olivier Salaun - CRU <address@concealed>
  • To: Miles Fidelman <address@concealed>
  • Cc: address@concealed
  • Subject: Re: [sympa-users] followup question re. include2
  • Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:14:55 +0200

Hi Miles,

Miles Fidelman wrote:
Thanks for the additional info - which, of course, leads to a few more
questions.  These questions are motivated by trying to figure out how to
keep list data in sync with a larger, external database of people who
might or might not be on several different lists.

On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Aumont - Comite Reseaux des Universites wrote:
  
Like any other list : if subscribe (unbsubscribe,add,del) scenario allow such operation it can be done even if the list user_data_source is include2.
    
If user is included from an external data surce, does he/she get a welcome email, or some message that tells the user he/she can subscribe himself?
No currently (and this is an heritage from the past) when a user is included, he/she is not notified. But we plan to make it an optional feature.
If user is included from an external data source, then unsubscribes, what happens the next time Sympa refreshes it's subscriber list from the external source?  What prevents the user from being added back to the
list?
  
The user can unsubscribe ONLY if he/she did subscribe. Somebody who was included but did not subscribe will not be able to unsubscribe ; it does not make sense.
If an address starts bouncing, does that information get stored in the external database or Sympa's internal database?
  
Bounce information get stored in Sympa's internal database (Mysql for example). Sympa only has read access to external DB.
In case a user is member of the list because of one include paragraphe, he will receive a apropriate notice when unsubscribing.
    
Can you point me to the code module where this happens? That might help me understand the details of what happens.
This has not been implemented yet.
If he did subscribe himself (via mail or web interface), he will stay member of the list even if the include paragraphe that he come from change. In addition he can choose his subscribtion option.
    
What happens if a list member is dropped from the external data source?
Does the user get some kind of notification when that happens?
  
This is in the TODO ; currently the user receives no notification message regarding inclusions.
On a more general note: What kinds of events/actions does include2 add that can be used in defining scenarii and tasks?
Nothing new in scenarios.
Task manager has a new 'sync_include' task.
-- 
Olivier Salaun
Comite Reseau des Universites



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