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[Stewart James <address@concealed>]

Olivier,

You have to be on eof the best resources for sympa...I totally miss
understood the include2 list type.....a feature I thought was waiting for
version 4.

I knew there was a reason I try and read all the messages to this list :)

Cheers,

Stewart



On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Olivier Salaun - CRU wrote:

> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:26:56 +0200
> From: Olivier Salaun - CRU <address@concealed>
> To: Miles Fidelman <address@concealed>
> Cc: address@concealed
> Subject: Re: [sympa-users] updating data when using "include" mechanisms
>
> Hi,
>
> Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> >I'm trying to figure out how to coordinate sympa databases with a larger
> >database.  [...]
> >So far the choices seem to be:
> >- use the sympa database, add fields
> >- define lists to include data from an external sql database
> >- define lists to include data from an external ldap server
> >
> >Clearly the first choice will work, though managing access rights to the
> >data will get tricky if we allow direct access to the database, going
> >around wwsympa access controls (i.e., since all the data is owned by
> >sympa.sympa - it gets tricky to provide selective access to subsets).
> >
> >So... I'd like to keep the data in an external database or ldap server, bu
> >that leads me to a few questions about how sympa and wwsympa deal with
> >data stored externally? For example:
> >
> >- does sympa store any info about included users in its own database?
> >
> It stores information about the user in the user_table just like any
> users. With the latest 'include2' feature we also keep a cache of
> included users in the subscriber_table and also bounces + reception options.
>
> >- how are passwords dealt with, do they have to be managed completely 
> >through the external database or can sympa still assign first-time 
> >passwords and allow users to update them?
> >
> >
> Default is to leave the authentication job to Sympa (via the
> user_table). But if using LDAP you can authenticate users against your
> LDAP directory, see
> http://www.sympa.org/doc/html/node9.html#SECTION00910000000000000000
>
> >- what about assigning privileges to users?
> >
> If you set privilege attributes to users in your LDAP directory, then
> you can use them within Sympa scenarios (authorization rules for
> commands), see
> http://www.sympa.org/doc/html/node9.html#SECTION00920000000000000000
>
> >- what about users setting their profiles for things like text/html, 
> >mail/digest, etc.?
> >
> >
> As I wrote above, it works with 'include2' lists.
> For more information on 'include2' (not documented yet), see
> http://listes.cru.fr/wws/arc/sympa-dev/2002-08/msg00006.html
>
> >Are there any documents I can read to get more details of sympa's 
> >interaction with external sources?
> >
> Apart from the reference manual, you should have look at the tutorial :
> http://www.sympa.org/doc.html
>
>