Developers of Sympa

[IKEDA Soji <address@concealed>]

David and all,

On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 17:59:17 +0100
David Verdin <address@concealed> wrote:

> Hi soji and all,
> 
> Le 07/01/14 18:31, IKEDA Soji a écrit :
> > David and all,
> > A happy new year three times!
> >
> > On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:23:43 +0100
> > David Verdin <address@concealed> wrote:
> >
> >> Happy new year !
> >>
> >> I just came back from holidays today - hence my lack of answers on this
> >> list over the last days.
> >>
> >> I'm glad to see that everybody is still eager to work on Sympa. I'm
> >> baffled by the number of commits over the last few weeks... Thank you
> >> everybody for your commitment in Sympa!
> >>
> >> Now, it appears from the most recent discussion - should I say argument?
> >> I think I could... ;-)    - - that we are not all on the same line about
> >> what is planned, and who should do what on which branch. Let me clarify
> >> this for you.
> >>
> >> Branch 6.1: is a stable branch. We fix bugs mainly. We don't refactor on
> >> this branch, we don't improve code design or layout - except if
> >> necessary to fix bugs.
> > A number improvements are contributed by several external
> > developers (perhaps as the gifts on new year for Sympa users).
> >
> > <NB>
> > * And on this occation, I personally "backported" some bug fixes
> >    from older sympa-6.2-branch-old.  I'd like to explain some
> >    not-so-ligtht changes (as someone may not take them as
> >    real bugs): i18n improvements of CSSes and edit_list page seemed
> >    to be neccessary.  Without former, pages were shown very agirily,
> >    especially by older versions of IE; Latter will let some
> >    non-anglophone users (such as in Far East) shut thmeselves up :).
> > </NB>
> all right, thanks for the explanation. You're our i18n resident expert, 
> so I totally trust you on this topic.
> >
> > BTW,
> >
> >> Branch 6.2: is still an unstable branch but will not stay this way. I
> >> want to issue a 6.2 beta as soon as possible. The branch started on
> >> revision 7678, which was the state of Sympa a year ago. This branch
> >> contains the code that is currently running on RENATER's production
> >> server (safe for the liste.renater.fr robot which runs under 6.1). I'll
> >> keep this branch in sync with the 6.1 branch by SVN merges. So we won't
> >> do any refactoring in this branch. Originally, Guillaume volunteered to
> >> make some cosmetic improvments in this branch but I don't feel it is
> >> necessary for the following reasons (explained by Guillaume):
> >>
> >>    * anybody can do what he did, so Soji, Étienne and I can do it if we
> >>      really want to
> >>    * there will be refactorings in the trunk so it will becom soon very
> >>      hard to port changes such as code layout. Better not miw them
> >>      amongst branches
> >>    * finally: thay are not necessary to have a running code and these
> >>      changes could unstabilize and therefore delay the release of the 6.2
> >>      version.
> >>
> >> Trunk: is the future 7.0 branch. Guillaume will work on it while we
> >> (Soji, Étienne and I) will handle the 6.2 and 6.1 branches. Like that he
> >> can peacefully work on code cleaning.
> >>
> >> I'll regularly merge 6.1 to 6.2 and 6.2 to trunk to prevent having two
> >> times the same commits in different branches.
> > In present, I'm working off-line for merger of changes/fixes in
> > 6.1-branch into 6.2-branch (it will take effect on-line in this week
> > or beginning of next week).
> >
> > I feel few difficulty on this work, however, I wish 6.2 and trunk
> > would be more or less in sync:  To ease fixes ralating features common
> > over trunk and 6.2 (such as SDM framework), I wish at least relocation
> > of files (and also namespaces) could be also done in 6.2.
> >
> > Of course, it can be done by me.
> mmmm...
> This is tempting but it will again delay the 6.2 beta release. If we 
> wait too much, we take the risk to release a 6.2 in february and an 7.0 
> in july. that's a lot of releases. I'm not sure our users will really 
> embrace them.
> Why not jut consider that our work in the 6.2 is done and just release 
> it soon, even if it is not laid out as we wished? We can still take care 
> of port bugs to the trunk even if it is not in the same shap as 6.2, 
> can't we?
> So I agree for the port of bug fixes, but I am really doubtful about the 
> files relocation.

I rethought on this and consider that there are no need of any
synchronizations by the time of releasing 6.2.0: Merger work may
occur after it.

I'd like to do my best to keep term of release.

On 7.0, by now I cannot make sure that trunk will become the base of
development: There can be various trial, error and change of policy
(note that they by themselves are significant experiences).

At the moment I withhold to express ay or no to the plan on 7.0.


> >> Please remember all, before starting working, to synchronize your local
> >> version of the sources with the latest version of the repository : svn
> >> update.
> >>
> >> To sum up: I want to release the 6.1.18 as soon as possible (still need
> >> to fix two bugs in it) and release a 6.2 beta very soon too.
> > Two?  I have noticed only one.  What is another...??
> 
>   * a bug with spam scenarios
>   * a bug with S/MIME: adding a footer will break signature. There
>     should be a workaround
>   * another S/MIME bug: some messages are unproperly encrypted
>   * also a little change to ease adding files to be parsed in families.
> 
> That's about it.

|   * a bug with S/MIME: adding a footer will break signature. There
|     should be a workaround

Perhaps I have fixed this on older sympa-6.2-branch, so I'll do it.


Regards,

--- Soji

> 
> Best regards,
> 
> David
> 
> >
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> David
> > Regards,
> >
> > --- Soji
> >
> >
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