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[Ruud Baart <address@concealed>]

Yes, but it uses all kind of dependencies like apache and I don't want 
that. Further, in the past the package made a mess of my configuration 
after an upgrade. So yes it exists, but no  I don't want to use it.


Op 5-2-2026 om 15:04 schreef Jean Charles Delépine:
> Hello,
>
> Do you know that sympa is packaged in debian ?
>
> $ apt policy sympa
> sympa:
>   Installé : (aucun)
>   Candidat : 6.2.76~dfsg-1
>  Table de version :
>      6.2.76~dfsg-1 500
>         500 https://ftp.u-picardie.fr/mirror/debian stable/main amd64 
> Packages
>         401 https://ftp.u-picardie.fr/mirror/debian testing/main amd64 
> Packages
>          90 https://ftp.u-picardie.fr/mirror/debian sid/main amd64 
> Packages
>
>
>
> Quoting Ruud Baart <address@concealed>:
>
> > I found a way to work around the problem. I still don't understand de 
> > exact reason for the problem.
> >
> > But Wietse Veenema hinted that perhaps an underlying and not very 
> > clear protection system prohibited the open() call in the binary 
> > queue. One possibility could have been the systemd service but 
> > changing to a start/stop script in init.d wasn't the solution. Today 
> > I decided to install a fresh sympa in a more debian way. Configure 
> > and install without the prefix /usr/local/sympa. The configure I 
> > used  is now:
> >
> > ./configure \
> >    -enable-fhs \
> >    --sysconfdir=/etc/sympa \
> >    --sbindir=/usr/lib/sympa/bin \
> >    --libexecdir=/usr/lib/sympa/bin \
> >    --with-cgidir=/usr/lib/cgi-bin/sympa \
> >    --with-staticdir=/usr/share/sympa/static_content \
> >    --with-cssdir=/var/lib/sympa/css \
> >    --with-picturesdir=/var/lib/sympa/pictures \
> >    --datadir=/usr/share \
> >    --localedir=/usr/share/locale \
> >    --mandir=/usr/share/man \
> >    --docdir=/usr/share/doc/sympa \
> >    --with-piddir=/run/sympa \
> >    --without-initdir \
> >    --with-unitsdir=/etc/systemd/system \
> >    --with-user=sympa \
> >    --with-group=sympa \
> >    --with-aliases_file=/etc/mail/sympa/aliases \
> >
> > And it runs without a problem (sofar). Thanks for all the help and 
> > suggestions.
> >
> > PS: It made me nostalgic. Back in the day, we were still in charge on 
> > a Linux/unix system.
> >
> >
> > Op 4-2-2026 om 21:42 schreef Ruud Baart:
> > > If i follow your strace statement, the mail is stored in the postfix 
> > > active spool directory
> > >
> > >    -Queue ID-  --Size-- ----Arrival Time---- -Sender/Recipient-------
> > >    3DEF95F444E*    2688 Wed Feb  4 21:32:05 address@concealed
> > >    address@concealed
> > >
> > > It is stored as expected in /var/spool/postfix/active/3DEF95F444E
> > >
> > > in de logging:
> > >
> > > Feb 04 20:14:20 monk postfix/pipe[17727]: 00C185F444E: 
> > > to=<address@concealed>, relay=sympa, delay=1695,  
> > > delays=694/0.01/ 0/1000, dsn=5.3.0, status=bounced (Command time 
> > > limit exceeded: "/usr/bin/strace")
> > > Feb 04 21:32:05 monk kernel: audit: type=1326 
> > > audit(1770237125.277:124): auid=4294967295 uid=120 gid=126 
> > > ses=4294967295 subj=unconfined pid=26499 comm="strace" 
> > > exe="/usr/bin/strace" sig=31 arch=c000003e syscall=101 compat=0 
> > > ip=0x7f9eef626888 code=0x80000000
> > >
> > >
> > > Op 4-2-2026 om 19:01 schreef Jean Charles Delépine:
> > > > Quoting Ruud Baart <address@concealed>:
> > > >
> > > > > In postfix master.cf
> > > > >
> > > > > sympa   unix    -       n       n       -       -  pipe
> > > > >   flags=hqRu null_sender= user=sympa 
> > > > > argv=/usr/local/sympa/bin/queue ${nexthop}
> > > >
> > > > Change that by :
> > > > sympa   unix    -       n       n       -       -       pipe
> > > >    flags=hqRu null_sender= user=sympa argv=strace -o /var/tmp/queue 
> > > > /usr/local/sympa/bin/queue ${nexthop}
> > > >
> > > > And send a mail.
> > > >
> > > > You should find something like :
> > > > [...]
> > > > chdir("/var/spool/sympa/queue")         = 0
> > > > umask(027)                              = 077
> > > > getpid()                                = 445618
> > > > openat(AT_FDCWD, "address@concealed", 
> > > > O_WRONLY|O_CREAT, 0600) = 3
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > Maybe that can clarify things.