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["Mail administrator, Otto Makela" <address@concealed>]

Confession: I'm doing bad, unauthorized and experimental things.
The reason for this is extreme laziness, not wanting to maintain
manually tarball-installed packages.

I have a Red Hat Enterprise Linux release 8.4 (Ootpa) server,
where I have installed by hand the following packages, and the
dependencies that follow with them, all satisfied:

sympa-6.2.62-1.el7.x86_64
sympa-httpd-6.2.62-1.el7.x86_64
foundation-icons-fonts-3.0-2.el7.noarch.rpm
js-respond-1.4.2-1.el7.noarch.rpm

These standard RHEL8 repository packages were also installed:

mariadb mariadb-server mariadb-server-utils mod_ssl

The end result is a Sympa server that is running, the httpd server
is accepting connections, but for some reason wwsympa (via spawn-fcgi)
doesn't really seem to be all there. Guessing from strace, it seems
to be getting queries from httpd and responding to them, but those
responses somehow never seem to come back to httpd:

# systemctl status sympa
● sympa.service - Sympa mailing list manager
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/sympa.service; enabled; vendor 
preset: disabled)
  Drop-In: /etc/systemd/system/sympa.service.d
           └─dependencies.conf
   Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-08-13 05:15:53 EEST; 10h ago
  Process: 1852 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/sympa_msg.pl (code=exited, 
status=0/SUCCESS)
  Process: 1084 ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/sympa.pl --health_check (code=exited, 
status=0/SUCCESS)
  Process: 1055 ExecStartPre=/bin/chown sympa:sympa /run/sympa (code=exited, 
status=0/SUCCESS)
  Process: 1045 ExecStartPre=/bin/mkdir -p /run/sympa (code=exited, 
status=0/SUCCESS)
 Main PID: 1933 (sympa_msg.pl)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 23667)
   Memory: 84.9M
   CGroup: /system.slice/sympa.service
           └─1933 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/sympa_msg.pl

Aug 13 05:15:48 myserver.mydomain.fi systemd[1]: Starting Sympa mailing list 
manager...
Aug 13 05:15:51 myserver.mydomain.fi sympa/health_check[1084]: info main:: 
Configuration file read, default log level 0
Aug 13 05:15:53 myserver.mydomain.fi sympa_msg[1852]: info main::_load() 
Configuration file read, default log level 0
Aug 13 05:15:53 myserver.mydomain.fi sympa_msg[1852]: notice 
Sympa::Process::daemonize() Starting sympa/msg daemon, PID 1933
Aug 13 05:15:53 myserver.mydomain.fi systemd[1]: Started Sympa mailing list 
manager.
Aug 13 05:15:53 myserver.mydomain.fi sympa_msg[1933]: notice main:: Sympa/msg 
6.2.62 Started

# systemctl status httpd
● httpd.service - The Apache HTTP Server
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/httpd.service; enabled; vendor 
preset: disabled)
   Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-08-13 09:15:26 EEST; 6h ago
     Docs: man:httpd.service(8)
 Main PID: 6625 (httpd)
   Status: "Total requests: 235; Idle/Busy workers 100/0;Requests/sec: 
0.00938; Bytes served/sec:  24 B/sec"
    Tasks: 287 (limit: 23667)
   Memory: 83.0M
   CGroup: /system.slice/httpd.service
           ├─6625 /usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND
           ├─6626 /usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND
           ├─6627 /usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND
           ├─6628 /usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND
           ├─6629 /usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND
           ├─6630 /usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND
           └─6851 /usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND

Aug 13 09:15:26 myserver.mydomain.fi systemd[1]: Starting The Apache HTTP 
Server...
Aug 13 09:15:26 myserver.mydomain.fi systemd[1]: Started The Apache HTTP 
Server.
Aug 13 09:15:27 myserver.mydomain.fi httpd[6625]: Server configured, 
listening on: 2001:708:10:6021::164 port 80, ...

# systemctl status wwsympa
● wwsympa.service - WWSympa - Web interface for Sympa mailing list manager
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/wwsympa.service; enabled; vendor 
preset: disabled)
   Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-08-13 05:15:53 EEST; 10h ago
  Process: 1934 ExecStart=/usr/bin/spawn-fcgi -F $FCGI_CHILDREN -P 
/run/sympa/wwsympa.pid -s /run/sympa/wwsympa.socket -u $FCGI_USER -g 
$FCGI_GROUP $FCGI_OPTS -- /usr/libe>
 Main PID: 1941 (wwsympa.fcgi)
    Tasks: 5 (limit: 23667)
   Memory: 525.4M
   CGroup: /system.slice/wwsympa.service
           ├─1941 /usr/bin/perl /usr/libexec/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi
           ├─1945 /usr/bin/perl /usr/libexec/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi
           ├─1946 /usr/bin/perl /usr/libexec/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi
           ├─1947 /usr/bin/perl /usr/libexec/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi
           └─1948 /usr/bin/perl /usr/libexec/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi

Aug 13 05:15:53 myserver.mydomain.fi spawn-fcgi[1934]: spawn-fcgi: child 
spawned successfully: PID: 1945
Aug 13 05:15:53 myserver.mydomain.fi spawn-fcgi[1934]: spawn-fcgi: child 
spawned successfully: PID: 1946
Aug 13 05:15:53 myserver.mydomain.fi spawn-fcgi[1934]: spawn-fcgi: child 
spawned successfully: PID: 1947
Aug 13 05:15:53 myserver.mydomain.fi spawn-fcgi[1934]: spawn-fcgi: child 
spawned successfully: PID: 1948
Aug 13 05:15:53 myserver.mydomain.fi systemd[1]: Started WWSympa - Web 
interface for Sympa mailing list manager.
Aug 13 05:15:57 myserver.mydomain.fi wwsympa[1945]: info main:: WWSympa 
started, process 1945
Aug 13 05:15:57 myserver.mydomain.fi wwsympa[1946]: info main:: WWSympa 
started, process 1946
Aug 13 05:15:57 myserver.mydomain.fi wwsympa[1948]: info main:: WWSympa 
started, process 1948
Aug 13 05:15:57 myserver.mydomain.fi wwsympa[1941]: info main:: WWSympa 
started, process 1941
Aug 13 05:15:57 myserver.mydomain.fi wwsympa[1947]: info main:: WWSympa 
started, process 1947

# ps -fu apache
UID          PID    PPID  C STIME TTY          TIME CMD
apache      6626    6625  0 09:15 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/httpd 
-DFOREGROUND
apache      6627    6625  0 09:15 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/httpd 
-DFOREGROUND
apache      6628    6625  0 09:15 ?        00:00:06 /usr/sbin/httpd 
-DFOREGROUND
apache      6629    6625  0 09:15 ?        00:00:05 /usr/sbin/httpd 
-DFOREGROUND
apache      6630    6625  0 09:15 ?        00:00:06 /usr/sbin/httpd 
-DFOREGROUND
apache      6851    6625  0 09:15 ?        00:00:07 /usr/sbin/httpd 
-DFOREGROUND

# ps -fu sympa
UID          PID    PPID  C STIME TTY          TIME CMD
sympa       1933       1  0 05:15 ?        00:00:02 /usr/bin/perl 
/usr/sbin/sympa_msg.pl
sympa       1941       1  0 05:15 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl 
/usr/libexec/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi
sympa       1945       1  0 05:15 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl 
/usr/libexec/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi
sympa       1946       1  0 05:15 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl 
/usr/libexec/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi
sympa       1947       1  0 05:15 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl 
/usr/libexec/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi
sympa       1948       1  0 05:15 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl 
/usr/libexec/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi
sympa       1988       1  0 05:15 ?        00:00:10 /usr/bin/perl 
/usr/sbin/bulk.pl
sympa       2002       1  0 05:15 ?        00:00:02 /usr/bin/perl 
/usr/sbin/task_manager.pl
sympa       2015       1  0 05:15 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/perl 
/usr/sbin/archived.pl
sympa       2016       1  0 05:15 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/perl 
/usr/sbin/bounced.pl


Maybe I'm deluded, and these unnatural experiments have twisted my little
mind, but I really think I'm fairly close getting this thing working.

Apart from the fact that I have no idea why the web server and fcgi aren't
talking with each other. Anyone have suggestions for debugging this?
I must be missing something fairly obvious.

Apache httpd is indicating in logs that connections are being responded to,
wwsympa doesn't seem to be logging anything anywhere.
Before you ask, selinux is disabled.

-- 
address@concealed (Mail Administrator, Otto J. Makela)