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  • From: "E. Casey" <address@concealed>
  • To: address@concealed
  • Subject: [sympa-users] gmail blocking all gmail accounts and causing bouncing of just these members
  • Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 14:35:50 -0500

Dear Sympa Gurus:

Google has recently become very aggressive against members of our sympa list at Copernican U. in Thorn Poland.
I have been getting increasingly frequent warnings from sympa with the text:

'Bounce rate in list grex is 41.4. You should delete bouncing subscribers:'

and then a link to bounce management. I finally reset the count on all 95 gmail members even though all were between 1 and 3. I think that the only way these members can see the postings is via the web interface to the archives.


One of the list masters sent me this explanation:
"
all new bounce messages are send to "@gmail.com" e.g.:

host alt2.aspmx.l.google.com[173.194.202.26] said:
Our system has detected that this message is
suspicious due to the nature of the content and/or the links
To best protect our users from spam, the message has
been blocked. Please visit

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131

for more information.
s25si19264030pgl.144 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command)
"

The list has been in operation since 1996 with membership varying between about 150 to 500. The only incidents since that time that could have been mistaken for spam activity were when someone inadvertently subscribed to the list and couldn' figure out how to unsubscribe.

The problem is that Google is not qualified to ascertain the "nature" of the content since it is in Latin. Is this something that Sympa can handle or is the ball in Google's court? Their suggestion seems to be that we move the discussion list to google groups. If google cannot fix this I will have to recommend that these users migrate to other email providers.

Thanks for any help with, or at least insight into this problem.

Edward Casey



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