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[IKEDA Soji <address@concealed>]

Hi Tim,

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 17:13:52 +0000
"Silvers, Tim" <address@concealed> wrote:

> Racke,
> 
> Any further information you can provide on this topic? Or, does anyone else 
> know if it's possible to permit list owners to see this information in the 
> web UI logs?

Perhaps anyone don't know.

AFAIK Sympa's logging behavior has always been inconsistent (Although
there may have been a consistent logging policy for developers in the
past, no one knows about it now).  As a result, it is possible that
logs that were considered redundant were removed during refactoring.
First of all, I think it is necessary to clarify what is to be logged
or not to be logged.

By the way, the same thing as yours has been submitted as an issue:
  https://github.com/sympa-community/sympa/issues/1052

So we'd be better to have a detailed discussion there.


Regards,
-- Soji


> Thanks,
>  
> Tim 
> 
> On 4/2/21, 1:32 PM, "Silvers, Tim" <address@concealed 
> on behalf of address@concealed> wrote:
> 
>     Additionally, the subscriber/member change events are not recorded in 
> the list_logs table in the database.
> 
>     Attached is a snippet from the 6.2.x announcement that indicate stats 
> include various data, including subscriber modifications. These stats 
> should be accessible to users, owners, and the listmaster. Could this be 
> the key?
> 
>     Thanks,
> 
>     Tim
> 
>     On 4/2/21, 11:08 AM, "Silvers, Tim" 
> <address@concealed on behalf of address@concealed> wrote:
> 
>         Sure. Those events are in the server logs, but they used to appear 
> in the web UI logs that owners may view. And we have owners that want to 
> view the subscriber activity in the web UI logs. Is there a configuration 
> setting to allow those events to appear in the web UI logs?
> 
>         Thanks,
> 
>         Tim
> 
>         On 4/2/21, 9:30 AM, "address@concealed on 
> behalf of Stefan Hornburg (Racke)" <address@concealed 
> on behalf of address@concealed> wrote:
> 
>             On 4/1/21 7:46 PM, Silvers, Tim wrote:
>             > Hi. We upgraded from Sympa 6.1.11 to version 6.2.60. The logs 
> in the web UI no longer show subscriber modification events such as 'add' 
> when adding or 'del' for deleting members. Is there a configuration setting 
> to enable the logs to include this information in the web UI for list 
> owners to review?
>             > 
>             > Thanks,
>             >  
>             > Tim
>             >  
>             > 
> 
>             They are still there with log_level = 0. The text most likely 
> changed though:
> 
>             Apr  2 13:26:49 buster-sympa wwsympa[9011]: info 
> Sympa::Request::Handler::add::_twist() ADD my-list address@concealed
>             from address@concealed accepted (0.04 seconds, 1 subscribers)
> 
>             Regards
>                      Racke
> 
>             -- 
>             Ecommerce and Linux consulting + Perl and web application 
> programming.
>             Debian and Sympa administration. Provisioning with Ansible.
> 
> 


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