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["Pinson, Brian" <address@concealed>]

Figured I'd ask 😃 I have sent it over to our AD team. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Hornburg (Racke) <address@concealed> 
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 9:24 AM
To: Pinson, Brian <address@concealed>; address@concealed
Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install

On 10/1/20 4:20 PM, Pinson, Brian wrote:
> Thank you for sharing! Can you or someone explain the this part? 
> Specifically the last part with all the numbers. 
> 
>     get_dn_by_email_filter 
> (&(objectcategory=person)(mail=[sender])(!(userAccountControl:1.2.840.
> 113556.1.4.803:=2)))
> 
> 

Sorry I can't .. this filter was provided by the client so I simply pasted it 
into the auth.conf.

As I said, the actual configuration might differ between AD installations. 
Ask your AD admins for the correct string.

Regards
         Racke

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address@concealed 
> <address@concealed> On Behalf Of Stefan Hornburg 
> (Racke)
> Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 9:15 AM
> To: address@concealed
> Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
> 
> On 10/1/20 4:02 PM, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>> I was able to get it figured out. There was a typo in my sympa.conf file… 
>> Thanks to everyone that helped!
>>
>>  
>>
>> Does anyone have any pointers on getting sympa to work against AD 
>> with LDAP? The documentation I saw on sympa’s site didn’t go into 
>> much detail. I found the auth.conf file but how does work? I made the 
>> changes and it still seems to be using the local authentication method.
>>
>>  
>>
>> https://sympa-community.github.io/manual/customize/ldap-auth.html
>>
> 
> I suppose the actual configuration depends on your local setup.
> 
> Here is a real life example from one of my clients (redacted for privacy):
> 
> --- snip ---
> ldap
>     regexp .*
>     host ldap.linuxia.de:636
>     bind_dn   address@concealed
>     bind_password nevairbe
>     timeout 20
>     suffix dc=linuxia,dc=de
>     get_dn_by_uid_filter (uid=[sender])
>     get_dn_by_email_filter 
> (&(objectcategory=person)(mail=[sender])(!(userAccountControl:1.2.840.113556.1.4.803:=2)))
>     email_attribute mail
>     scope sub
>     use_ssl 1
>     ca_file /etc/ssl/linuxia-chain.pem
>     ca_verify required
> 
> 
> user_table
>   regexp .*
> --- snap ---
> 
> The blank line between the two entries is mandatory.
> 
> Regards
>          Racke
> 
> 
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* address@concealed
>> <address@concealed> *On Behalf Of *Colas Nahaboo
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 1, 2020 2:38 AM
>> *To:* Stefan Hornburg (Racke) <address@concealed>
>> *Cc:* address@concealed
>> *Subject:* Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>>
>>  
>>
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>> --------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Well, I guess the RPM package can work. It is just that before using 
>> the Debian package of Sympa (that I used apache, mysql, postfix), I 
>> have been installing from source, and looking at the amount of manual 
>> work left once the RPM package was installed, I thought that it did not 
>> save much compared to installing by hand, so why bother (and adding one 
>> more dependency, aka potential for failure)?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Out of curiosity, I will try to use the Debian package on Ubuntu however,  
>> before resorting to installing by hand.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 08:39, Stefan Hornburg (Racke) <address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 9/30/20 11:57 PM, Colas Nahaboo wrote:
>>     > Just a warning on the linux distribution packages I tried 2 months 
>> ago:
>>     >
>>     >   * Ubuntu doesn't work (archiving doesn't work) and has not been 
>> maintained for 2 years.
>>     >   * Debian works nicely, and updates sympa versions.
>>     >   * RHEL is not  useful. It just copies files, but do not attempt to 
>> really install things (no database setup, no
>>     >     integration with the mail system, ...) and I don't think it will 
>> be of any use for upgrading.
>>     >
>>
>>     Thanks for your valuable input. I can improve the Debian packages, but 
>> the other ones are out
>>     of my scope.
>>
>>     I have a client with Sympa installed on CentOS 7 from RPM. Last 
>> upgrade was fine there.
>>
>>     Regards
>>              Racke
>>
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 23:02, Pinson, Brian <address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed> <mailto:address@concealed
>>     <mailto:address@concealed>>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     >     Thank you! That helped. Final stretch here... so I go to the 
>> webpage and I'm getting:
>>     >
>>     >     Forbidden
>>     >
>>     >     You don't have permission to access /sympa on this server.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >     Anything come to mind with this?
>>     >
>>     >     -----Original Message-----
>>     >     From: address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>
>>     <mailto:address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>>     >     <address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>
>>     <mailto:address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>>> On Behalf Of Stefan
>>     Hornburg
>>     >     (Racke)
>>     >     Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:12 PM
>>     >     To: address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed> 
>> <mailto:address@concealed
>>     <mailto:address@concealed>>
>>     >     Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>>     >
>>     >     On 9/30/20 9:08 PM, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>>     >     > I'm getting stuck with configuring the sendmail part.
>>     >     > 
>> (https://sympa-community.github.io/manual/install/configure-mail-serve
>>     
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/sympa-community.github.io/manual/install/configure-mail-serve__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!s0RhBNoCKz8XH3jbRbv0tJ0QY8cvIgMuqNkNZKQ9M12pXKIegLsrpCQUYz8vvO8$>
>>     >     > r-sendmail.html)
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Particularly the alias part. What is the "$SENDMAIL_ALIAS" 
>> thing it's talking about?
>>     >
>>     >     These variables are explained here: 
>> https://sympa-community.github.io/manual/layout.html
>>     
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/sympa-community.github.io/manual/layout.html__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!s0RhBNoCKz8XH3jbRbv0tJ0QY8cvIgMuqNkNZKQ9M12pXKIegLsrpCQUEeWgc8E$>.
>>     >
>>     >     Regards
>>     >             Racke
>>     >
>>     >     >
>>     >     > -----Original Message-----
>>     >     > From: address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>
>>     <mailto:address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>>     >     > <address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>
>>     <mailto:address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>>> On Behalf Of Stefan
>>     Hornburg
>>     >     > (Racke)
>>     >     > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:52 AM
>>     >     > To: address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>
>>     <mailto:address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>>     >     > Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>>     >     >
>>     >     > On 9/30/20 5:48 PM, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>>     >     >> Wish me luck! Going to try the RPM.
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Let us know how it goes ... maybe you can suggest improvements 
>> to the documentation if you find it unclear or
>>     >     missing useful information.
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Good luck
>>     >     >
>>     >     >     Racke
>>     >     >
>>     >     >> -----Original Message-----
>>     >     >> From: address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>
>>     <mailto:address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>>     >     >> <address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>
>>     <mailto:address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>>> On Behalf Of David Verdin
>>     >     >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:25 AM
>>     >     >> To: address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>
>>     <mailto:address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>>     >     >> Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> Another point of attention: The distribution has no impact on 
>> Sympa
>>     >     >> administration. Around 45 % of installs are under Redhat (or 
>> Fedora,
>>     >     >> centos, etc.), 45 % under Debian (or Ubuntu and the like) and 
>> most of
>>     >     >> the 10% remaining are FreeBSD.
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> The only impact of distribution is which Sympa version is 
>> packaged.
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> About it, Soji maintains the RPM, so RedHat can always have 
>> the
>>     >     >> latest version packaged, but you need to set up the dedicated
>>     >     >> repository. I don't know how it works for Debian if you want 
>> the
>>     >     >> latest version packaged. It seems that current version in 
>> Debian is
>>     >     >> something like
>>     >     >> 6.2.40 which is good enough.
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> Personally, I always install from sources, so I don't care 
>> and use
>>     >     >> Ubuntu servers.
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> Cheers!
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> David
>>     >     >>
>>     >     >> On 30/09/2020 17:14, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>>     >     >>> We are generally a RHEL or OEL shop. But, from what I've 
>> discovered is Debian seems to be the go-to option. Is
>>     >     the Sympa documentation accurate for the Debian install? I 
>> haven't found that their documentation is the best.
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>> Thank you so much for you input. We are trying to move away 
>> from
>>     >     >>> Mailman and Sympa seems promising if I could just get it 
>> installed!
>>     >     >>> 😃
>>     >     >
>>     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >>> -----Original Message-----
>>     >     >>> From: address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>
>>     <mailto:address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>>     >     >>> <address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>
>>     <mailto:address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>>> On Behalf Of Stefan
>>     Hornburg
>>     >     >>> (Racke)
>>     >     >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:12 AM
>>     >     >>> To: address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>
>>     <mailto:address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>>     >     >>> Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>> On 9/30/20 4:54 PM, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>>     >     >>>> I'm starting from scratch. I'm basically just wanting to 
>> feel out what the community recommends. We have one
>>     >     system running Ubuntu but it just doesn't seem to be working 
>> right. We have to reset our passwords almost everyday
>>     >     right now. I would just rather rebuild as I think something was 
>> installed incorrectly the first time.
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>> The community has several opinions and different 
>> infrastructure concerns, so there is no general
>>     recommendation.
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>> Here is the list of what I prefer:
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>> Distribution: Debian
>>     >     >>> Web server: Nginx (faster and more consistent than Apache)
>>     >     >>> Database: PostgreSQL (more mature and less surprises than 
>> MySQL /
>>     >     >>> MariaDB) Mail server: Exim (but Postfix is fine too)
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>> Regards
>>     >     >>>           Racke
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>
>>     >     >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>     >     >>>> From: address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>
>>     <mailto:address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>>     >     >>>> <address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>
>>     <mailto:address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>>> On Behalf Of Stefan
>>     >     >>>> Hornburg
>>     >     >>>> (Racke)
>>     >     >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 9:52 AM
>>     >     >>>> To: address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>
>>     <mailto:address@concealed 
>> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>>     >     >>>> Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>> On 9/30/20 4:42 PM, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>>     >     >>>>> Good Morning all,
>>     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >>>>> Is there anyone out there that has a good step-by-step
>>     >     >>>>> installation for Sympa? All the ones that I have tried are 
>> either incomplete or just don't work.
>>     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >>>>>   
>>     >     >>>>>
>>     >     >>>>> Any guidance is greatly appreciated!
>>     >     >>>> Hello Brian,
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>> it depends on a couple of things:
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>> How do you install it? From sources?
>>     >     >>>> Which distribution is installed on your server?
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>> Database?
>>     >     >>>> MTA?
>>     >     >>>> Web server?
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>> Regards
>>     >     >>>>         Racke
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>> --
>>     >     >>>> Ecommerce and Linux consulting + Perl and web application 
>> programming.
>>     >     >>>> Debian and Sympa administration. Provisioning with Ansible.
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>>
>>     >     >>>
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>>     >
>>     >
>>     >     --
>>     >     Ecommerce and Linux consulting + Perl and web application 
>> programming.
>>     >     Debian and Sympa administration. Provisioning with Ansible.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > --
>>     > Colas Nahaboo - https://colas.nahaboo.net
>>     
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>>
>>
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>>     Ecommerce and Linux consulting + Perl and web application programming.
>>     Debian and Sympa administration. Provisioning with Ansible.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Colas Nahaboo - https://colas.nahaboo.net 
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