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["Stefan Hornburg (Racke)" <address@concealed>]

On 10/1/20 4:02 PM, Pinson, Brian wrote:
> I was able to get it figured out. There was a typo in my sympa.conf file… 
> Thanks to everyone that helped!
> 
>  
> 
> Does anyone have any pointers on getting sympa to work against AD with 
> LDAP? The documentation I saw on sympa’s site
> didn’t go into much detail. I found the auth.conf file but how does work? I 
> made the changes and it still seems to be
> using the local authentication method.
> 
>  
> 
> https://sympa-community.github.io/manual/customize/ldap-auth.html
> 

I suppose the actual configuration depends on your local setup.

Here is a real life example from one of my clients (redacted for privacy):

--- snip ---
ldap
    regexp .*
    host ldap.linuxia.de:636
    bind_dn     address@concealed
    bind_password nevairbe
    timeout 20
    suffix dc=linuxia,dc=de
    get_dn_by_uid_filter (uid=[sender])
    get_dn_by_email_filter 
(&(objectcategory=person)(mail=[sender])(!(userAccountControl:1.2.840.113556.1.4.803:=2)))
    email_attribute mail
    scope sub
    use_ssl 1
    ca_file /etc/ssl/linuxia-chain.pem
    ca_verify required


user_table
  regexp .*
--- snap ---

The blank line between the two entries is mandatory.

Regards
         Racke


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> *From:* address@concealed 
> <address@concealed> *On Behalf Of *Colas Nahaboo
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 1, 2020 2:38 AM
> *To:* Stefan Hornburg (Racke) <address@concealed>
> *Cc:* address@concealed
> *Subject:* Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
> 
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> Well, I guess the RPM package can work. It is just that before using the 
> Debian package of Sympa (that I used apache,
> mysql, postfix), I have been installing from source, and looking at the 
> amount of manual work left once the RPM package
> was installed, I thought that it did not save much compared to installing 
> by hand, so why bother (and adding one more
> dependency, aka potential for failure)?
> 
>  
> 
> Out of curiosity, I will try to use the Debian package on Ubuntu however,  
> before resorting to installing by hand.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 08:39, Stefan Hornburg (Racke) <address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>> wrote:
> 
>     On 9/30/20 11:57 PM, Colas Nahaboo wrote:
>     > Just a warning on the linux distribution packages I tried 2 months 
> ago:
>     >
>     >   * Ubuntu doesn't work (archiving doesn't work) and has not been 
> maintained for 2 years.
>     >   * Debian works nicely, and updates sympa versions.
>     >   * RHEL is not  useful. It just copies files, but do not attempt to 
> really install things (no database setup, no
>     >     integration with the mail system, ...) and I don't think it will 
> be of any use for upgrading.
>     >
> 
>     Thanks for your valuable input. I can improve the Debian packages, but 
> the other ones are out
>     of my scope.
> 
>     I have a client with Sympa installed on CentOS 7 from RPM. Last upgrade 
> was fine there.
> 
>     Regards
>              Racke
> 
>     >
>     >
>     > On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 23:02, Pinson, Brian <address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed> <mailto:address@concealed
>     <mailto:address@concealed>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Thank you! That helped. Final stretch here... so I go to the 
> webpage and I'm getting:
>     >
>     >     Forbidden
>     >
>     >     You don't have permission to access /sympa on this server.
>     >
>     >
>     >     Anything come to mind with this?
>     >
>     >     -----Original Message-----
>     >     From: address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>
>     <mailto:address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>     >     <address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>
>     <mailto:address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>>> On Behalf Of Stefan
>     Hornburg
>     >     (Racke)
>     >     Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:12 PM
>     >     To: address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed> <mailto:address@concealed
>     <mailto:address@concealed>>
>     >     Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>     >
>     >     On 9/30/20 9:08 PM, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>     >     > I'm getting stuck with configuring the sendmail part.
>     >     > 
> (https://sympa-community.github.io/manual/install/configure-mail-serve
>     
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>     >     > r-sendmail.html)
>     >     >
>     >     > Particularly the alias part. What is the "$SENDMAIL_ALIAS" 
> thing it's talking about?
>     >
>     >     These variables are explained here: 
> https://sympa-community.github.io/manual/layout.html
>     
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>     >
>     >     Regards
>     >             Racke
>     >
>     >     >
>     >     > -----Original Message-----
>     >     > From: address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>
>     <mailto:address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>     >     > <address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>
>     <mailto:address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>>> On Behalf Of Stefan
>     Hornburg
>     >     > (Racke)
>     >     > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:52 AM
>     >     > To: address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>
>     <mailto:address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>     >     > Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>     >     >
>     >     > On 9/30/20 5:48 PM, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>     >     >> Wish me luck! Going to try the RPM.
>     >     >>
>     >     >
>     >     > Let us know how it goes ... maybe you can suggest improvements 
> to the documentation if you find it unclear or
>     >     missing useful information.
>     >     >
>     >     > Good luck
>     >     >
>     >     >     Racke
>     >     >
>     >     >> -----Original Message-----
>     >     >> From: address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>
>     <mailto:address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>     >     >> <address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>
>     <mailto:address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>>> On Behalf Of David Verdin
>     >     >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:25 AM
>     >     >> To: address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>
>     <mailto:address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>     >     >> Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Another point of attention: The distribution has no impact on 
> Sympa
>     >     >> administration. Around 45 % of installs are under Redhat (or 
> Fedora,
>     >     >> centos, etc.), 45 % under Debian (or Ubuntu and the like) and 
> most of
>     >     >> the 10% remaining are FreeBSD.
>     >     >>
>     >     >> The only impact of distribution is which Sympa version is 
> packaged.
>     >     >>
>     >     >> About it, Soji maintains the RPM, so RedHat can always have the
>     >     >> latest version packaged, but you need to set up the dedicated
>     >     >> repository. I don't know how it works for Debian if you want 
> the
>     >     >> latest version packaged. It seems that current version in 
> Debian is
>     >     >> something like
>     >     >> 6.2.40 which is good enough.
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Personally, I always install from sources, so I don't care and 
> use
>     >     >> Ubuntu servers.
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Cheers!
>     >     >>
>     >     >> David
>     >     >>
>     >     >> On 30/09/2020 17:14, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>     >     >>> We are generally a RHEL or OEL shop. But, from what I've 
> discovered is Debian seems to be the go-to option. Is
>     >     the Sympa documentation accurate for the Debian install? I 
> haven't found that their documentation is the best.
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> Thank you so much for you input. We are trying to move away 
> from
>     >     >>> Mailman and Sympa seems promising if I could just get it 
> installed!
>     >     >>> 😃
>     >     >
>     >     >>>>>
>     >     >>> -----Original Message-----
>     >     >>> From: address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>
>     <mailto:address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>     >     >>> <address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>
>     <mailto:address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>>> On Behalf Of Stefan
>     Hornburg
>     >     >>> (Racke)
>     >     >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:12 AM
>     >     >>> To: address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>
>     <mailto:address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>     >     >>> Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> On 9/30/20 4:54 PM, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>     >     >>>> I'm starting from scratch. I'm basically just wanting to 
> feel out what the community recommends. We have one
>     >     system running Ubuntu but it just doesn't seem to be working 
> right. We have to reset our passwords almost everyday
>     >     right now. I would just rather rebuild as I think something was 
> installed incorrectly the first time.
>     >     >>>>
>     >     >>> The community has several opinions and different 
> infrastructure concerns, so there is no general
>     recommendation.
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> Here is the list of what I prefer:
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> Distribution: Debian
>     >     >>> Web server: Nginx (faster and more consistent than Apache)
>     >     >>> Database: PostgreSQL (more mature and less surprises than 
> MySQL /
>     >     >>> MariaDB) Mail server: Exim (but Postfix is fine too)
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> Regards
>     >     >>>           Racke
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>>> -----Original Message-----
>     >     >>>> From: address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>
>     <mailto:address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>     >     >>>> <address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>
>     <mailto:address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>>> On Behalf Of Stefan
>     >     >>>> Hornburg
>     >     >>>> (Racke)
>     >     >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 9:52 AM
>     >     >>>> To: address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>
>     <mailto:address@concealed 
> <mailto:address@concealed>>
>     >     >>>> Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>     >     >>>>
>     >     >>>> On 9/30/20 4:42 PM, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>     >     >>>>> Good Morning all,
>     >     >>>>>
>     >     >>>>> Is there anyone out there that has a good step-by-step
>     >     >>>>> installation for Sympa? All the ones that I have tried are 
> either incomplete or just don't work.
>     >     >>>>>
>     >     >>>>>   
>     >     >>>>>
>     >     >>>>> Any guidance is greatly appreciated!
>     >     >>>> Hello Brian,
>     >     >>>>
>     >     >>>> it depends on a couple of things:
>     >     >>>>
>     >     >>>> How do you install it? From sources?
>     >     >>>> Which distribution is installed on your server?
>     >     >>>>
>     >     >>>> Database?
>     >     >>>> MTA?
>     >     >>>> Web server?
>     >     >>>>
>     >     >>>> Regards
>     >     >>>>         Racke
>     >     >>>>
>     >     >>>>
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>     >     >>>> Ecommerce and Linux consulting + Perl and web application 
> programming.
>     >     >>>> Debian and Sympa administration. Provisioning with Ansible.
>     >     >>>>
>     >     >>>>
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>     >     >>>
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> programming.
>     >     > Debian and Sympa administration. Provisioning with Ansible.
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>     >
>     >
>     >     --
>     >     Ecommerce and Linux consulting + Perl and web application 
> programming.
>     >     Debian and Sympa administration. Provisioning with Ansible.
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