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[Colas Nahaboo <address@concealed>]

Well, I guess the RPM package can work. It is just that before using the Debian package of Sympa (that I used apache, mysql, postfix), I have been installing from source, and looking at the amount of manual work left once the RPM package was installed, I thought that it did not save much compared to installing by hand, so why bother (and adding one more dependency, aka potential for failure)?

Out of curiosity, I will try to use the Debian package on Ubuntu however,  before resorting to installing by hand.

On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 08:39, Stefan Hornburg (Racke) <address@concealed> wrote:

On 9/30/20 11:57 PM, Colas Nahaboo wrote:
> Just a warning on the linux distribution packages I tried 2 months ago:
>
>   * Ubuntu doesn't work (archiving doesn't work) and has not been maintained for 2 years.
>   * Debian works nicely, and updates sympa versions.
>   * RHEL is not  useful. It just copies files, but do not attempt to really install things (no database setup, no
>     integration with the mail system, ...) and I don't think it will be of any use for upgrading.
>

Thanks for your valuable input. I can improve the Debian packages, but the other ones are out
of my scope.

I have a client with Sympa installed on CentOS 7 from RPM. Last upgrade was fine there.

Regards
         Racke

>
>
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 23:02, Pinson, Brian <address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>> wrote:
>
>     Thank you! That helped. Final stretch here... so I go to the webpage and I'm getting:
>
>     Forbidden
>
>     You don't have permission to access /sympa on this server.
>
>
>     Anything come to mind with this?
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>
>     <address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>> On Behalf Of Stefan Hornburg
>     (Racke)
>     Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:12 PM
>     To: address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>
>     Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>
>     On 9/30/20 9:08 PM, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>     > I'm getting stuck with configuring the sendmail part.
>     > (https://sympa-community.github.io/manual/install/configure-mail-serve
>     > r-sendmail.html)
>     >
>     > Particularly the alias part. What is the "$SENDMAIL_ALIAS" thing it's talking about?
>
>     These variables are explained here: https://sympa-community.github.io/manual/layout.html.
>
>     Regards
>             Racke
>
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>
>     > <address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>> On Behalf Of Stefan Hornburg
>     > (Racke)
>     > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:52 AM
>     > To: address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>
>     > Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>     >
>     > On 9/30/20 5:48 PM, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>     >> Wish me luck! Going to try the RPM.
>     >>
>     >
>     > Let us know how it goes ... maybe you can suggest improvements to the documentation if you find it unclear or
>     missing useful information.
>     >
>     > Good luck
>     >
>     >     Racke
>     >
>     >> -----Original Message-----
>     >> From: address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>
>     >> <address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>> On Behalf Of David Verdin
>     >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:25 AM
>     >> To: address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>
>     >> Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>     >>
>     >> Another point of attention: The distribution has no impact on Sympa
>     >> administration. Around 45 % of installs are under Redhat (or Fedora,
>     >> centos, etc.), 45 % under Debian (or Ubuntu and the like) and most of
>     >> the 10% remaining are FreeBSD.
>     >>
>     >> The only impact of distribution is which Sympa version is packaged.
>     >>
>     >> About it, Soji maintains the RPM, so RedHat can always have the
>     >> latest version packaged, but you need to set up the dedicated
>     >> repository. I don't know how it works for Debian if you want the
>     >> latest version packaged. It seems that current version in Debian is
>     >> something like
>     >> 6.2.40 which is good enough.
>     >>
>     >> Personally, I always install from sources, so I don't care and use
>     >> Ubuntu servers.
>     >>
>     >> Cheers!
>     >>
>     >> David
>     >>
>     >> On 30/09/2020 17:14, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>     >>> We are generally a RHEL or OEL shop. But, from what I've discovered is Debian seems to be the go-to option. Is
>     the Sympa documentation accurate for the Debian install? I haven't found that their documentation is the best.
>     >>>
>     >>> Thank you so much for you input. We are trying to move away from
>     >>> Mailman and Sympa seems promising if I could just get it installed!
>     >>> 😃
>     >
>     >>>>>
>     >>> -----Original Message-----
>     >>> From: address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>
>     >>> <address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>> On Behalf Of Stefan Hornburg
>     >>> (Racke)
>     >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:12 AM
>     >>> To: address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>
>     >>> Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>     >>>
>     >>> On 9/30/20 4:54 PM, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>     >>>> I'm starting from scratch. I'm basically just wanting to feel out what the community recommends. We have one
>     system running Ubuntu but it just doesn't seem to be working right. We have to reset our passwords almost everyday
>     right now. I would just rather rebuild as I think something was installed incorrectly the first time.
>     >>>>
>     >>> The community has several opinions and different infrastructure concerns, so there is no general recommendation.
>     >>>
>     >>> Here is the list of what I prefer:
>     >>>
>     >>> Distribution: Debian
>     >>> Web server: Nginx (faster and more consistent than Apache)
>     >>> Database: PostgreSQL (more mature and less surprises than MySQL /
>     >>> MariaDB) Mail server: Exim (but Postfix is fine too)
>     >>>
>     >>> Regards
>     >>>           Racke
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>> -----Original Message-----
>     >>>> From: address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>
>     >>>> <address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>> On Behalf Of Stefan
>     >>>> Hornburg
>     >>>> (Racke)
>     >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 9:52 AM
>     >>>> To: address@concealed <mailto:address@concealed>
>     >>>> Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Sympa Install
>     >>>>
>     >>>> On 9/30/20 4:42 PM, Pinson, Brian wrote:
>     >>>>> Good Morning all,
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Is there anyone out there that has a good step-by-step
>     >>>>> installation for Sympa? All the ones that I have tried are either incomplete or just don't work.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>   
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Any guidance is greatly appreciated!
>     >>>> Hello Brian,
>     >>>>
>     >>>> it depends on a couple of things:
>     >>>>
>     >>>> How do you install it? From sources?
>     >>>> Which distribution is installed on your server?
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Database?
>     >>>> MTA?
>     >>>> Web server?
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Regards
>     >>>>         Racke
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
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