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[Steve Shipway <address@concealed>]

I appreciate the reply on this; I know that any change will have its
supporters and its detractors, and you can't please all of the people all of
the time.

> > -          The lefthand menu area is wasted!  Under 6.1, the lefthand
menu
> > area contained a list of your lists, a list searchbox.  Now nothing
> > apart from list info.  Before, we added extra items to this area, but
> > doing that now seems to break layout of the whole page.
> 
> You can enable side menu by editing web_tt2/main.tt2 to unset
> (undocumented) "top_menu" variable.

This is a handy thing to know.  Although setting this also removes the very
top menu (the one I like) it fixes a number of other issues, and gives me
some pointers on where I can modify the templates to get the effect I want
to achieve.  The big thing was the classes of the <main> tag in main.tt2
where I need "medium-9 columns" in order to be able to have a lefthand menu
on pages other than the list page.

It also reveals that the new UI is far more powerful than I realised, and
the underlying Javascript and CSS does some very clever reconfiguration as
the window size alters, which is the root cause of the apparently
excessively large sidebar space.  As the window shrinks, so does the space.

> > -          The Home page is hard to read.  Really, those 6 big boxes,
some
> > containing nothing but a single button?
> >
> > -          List categories are unreadable.  They are squashed in a small
box
> > rather than being properly spread out as they were in 6.1.
> >
> > -          List configuration pages have such chunky edit boxes that the
> > screen becomes unreadable.  Only a few items on at a time.
> 
> They depend on the concept, too, I suppose.  You can customize templates.

For these, I'll be customising the templates, I think.

> > our single-signon  button appears in the wrong place
> Would you please submit this issue to bug tracker?

This one is a simple fix in the loginbanner.tt2.  Simply put, we prefer to
have the SSO button on the right of the Login dropdown, which I can easily
configure.

> To keep older skins, or to provide multiple skins by single version of
Sympa,
> we have to solve two issues: Techinical limitation and man-power.

I can understand that.  I suppose I'm hoping that someone else out there in
Sympaland has the same opinions as myself, and has already done the work to
make the new UI more similar to the old one.  Otherwise, if I have to
completely do the job myself, I might package my UI mods up for other people
who want a more  compact style.

Thanks for the feedback.  There are a lot of new things for customisation
that need more documentation -- I'm thinking about things like the variables
exposed to custom_actions and the useful functions, and the variables used
in templates like the top_menu setting.  If I had access to update the
documentation Wiki then I'd put something in there :)

Steve

Steve Shipway
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