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  • From: Gastón <address@concealed>
  • To: "address@concealed >> \"address@concealed\"" <address@concealed>
  • Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Mailing to hotmail and yahoo
  • Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:10:54 -0300

These are the logs when sending to hotmail and yahoo:

Apr 15 00:10:20 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: < g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[98.137.54.238]:25: 250-mta1033.mail.sp2.yahoo.com
Apr 15 00:10:20 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: < g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[98.137.54.238]:25: 250-8BITMIME
Apr 15 00:10:20 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: < g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[98.137.54.238]:25: 250-SIZE 41943040
Apr 15 00:10:20 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: < g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[98.137.54.238]:25: 250 PIPELINING
Apr 15 00:10:20 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: server features: 0x100f size 41943040
Apr 15 00:10:20 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: Using ESMTP PIPELINING, TCP send buffer size is 4096
Apr 15 00:10:20 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: > g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[98.137.54.238]:25: MAIL FROM:<address@concealed> SIZE=3790 BOD
Y=7BIT
Apr 15 00:10:20 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: > g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[98.137.54.238]:25: RCPT TO:<address@concealed>
Apr 15 00:10:20 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: > g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[98.137.54.238]:25: DATA
Apr 15 00:10:20 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: < g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[98.137.54.238]:25: 250 sender <address@concealed> ok
Apr 15 00:10:20 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: < g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[98.137.54.238]:25: 250 recipient <address@concealed> ok
Apr 15 00:10:20 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: < g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[98.137.54.238]:25: 354 go ahead
Apr 15 00:10:20 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: > g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[98.137.54.238]:25: .
Apr 15 00:10:20 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: > g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[98.137.54.238]:25: QUIT
Apr 15 00:10:21 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: < g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[98.137.54.238]:25: 250 ok dirdel
Apr 15 00:10:21 mydomain postfix/smtp[7442]: 56E17141972A: to=<address@concealed>, relay=g.mx.mail.yahoo.com[98.137.54.238]:25, delay=0.82, delays
=0.05/0.02/0.17/0.58, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 ok dirdel)



Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: < mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: 220 SNT0-MC1-F34.Snt0.hotmail.com Sending unsolicited commercial or
bulk e-mail to Microsoft's compu
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: > mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: EHLO mail.mydomain.co.cc
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: < mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: 250-SNT0-MC1-F34.Snt0.hotmail.com (3.10.0.73) Hello [206.123.88.244]
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: < mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: 250-SIZE 29696000
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: < mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: 250-PIPELINING
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: < mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: 250-8bitmime
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: < mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: 250-BINARYMIME
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: < mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: 250-CHUNKING
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: < mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: 250-AUTH LOGIN
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: < mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: 250-AUTH=LOGIN
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: < mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: 250 OK
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: server features: 0x100f size 29696000
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: Using ESMTP PIPELINING, TCP send buffer size is 4096
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: > mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: MAIL FROM:<address@concealed> SIZE=3801 BODY=7B
IT
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: > mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: RCPT TO:<address@concealed>
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: > mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: DATA
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: < mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: 250 address@concealed....Sender OK
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: < mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: 250 address@concealed
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: < mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: 354 Start mail input; end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: > mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: .
Apr 14 23:03:07 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: > mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: QUIT
Apr 14 23:03:08 mydomain postfix/smtp[32164]: < mx4.hotmail.com[65.55.92.136]:25: 250 <address@concealed
> Queued mail for delivery


I noticed two things, hotmail says "Sending unsolicited commercial or..." while Yahoo gives "250 ok dirdel" but this is supposed to be ok.



David Verdin wrote:
Take the time for DNS propagation.
Did you receive any non delivery report from the destination emails that could help us to understand the problem?

Cheers,

David

Le 14/04/2010 22:26, Koshokin, Alexey a écrit :
In fact, the standards do not impose mail relays to response to pings. However, it is needless to say that MX and/or A records for mentioned names must exists.

--
a.k.


-----Original Message-----
From: address@concealed [mailto:address@concealed] On Behalf Of Russ Kepler
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 12:23 AM
To: address@concealed
Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Mailing to hotmail and yahoo

On Wednesday 14 April 2010 14:08:30 Gastón wrote:
Yes, I did that and everything was fine, in fact if I send an email
directly from postfix they arrive ok. The only thing different is that
from Sympa mails come from address@concealed and through
postfix from address@concealed
Some ISPs verify addresses in the header. I'd verify that you can ping both
lists.mydomain.com and mydomain.com.


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