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["Paul Borghese" <address@concealed>]

What does the following line represent?

Feb 20 03:37:30 lists sympa[5631]: Message for ccielab from
address@concealed accepted (1358 seconds, 54 sessions), size=4995

Is it saying it took sympa 1,358 seconds to receive one 4k message?

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Borghese [mailto:address@concealed] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 4:01 AM
To: address@concealed
Cc: address@concealed
Subject: RE: [sympa-users] Queueing time of over a day

Ok, I stopped sympa and moved the msg folder to msg-old and created a new
msg folder.  I moved two messages from the old folder into msg and also
posted two messages of my own.

I then restarted the sympa processes.  The first message was processed
immediately, but now 20+ minutes later the remaining four are still in
queue.

The only log message is the following:

Feb 20 03:42:44 lists sympa[5907]: Processing message for ccielab with
priority 5, <address@concealed>

Feb 20 03:42:45 lists sympa[5907]: Cannot read
/home/sympa/expl/ccielab/message.footer


I realize there was an error with message.footer, but frankly that has been
the case for the last five years.

Is there any way to put sympa in a debug mode where I can see what is
happening?

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: address@concealed [mailto:address@concealed] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:14 AM
To: Paul Borghese
Cc: address@concealed
Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Queueing time of over a day

Paul Borghese wrote:
> For example, there is a message in /var/spool/sympa/msg that I sent hours
> ago.  It is just sitting there waiting to be picked up by sympa.  In about
a
> day or so, sympa will pick it out of the queue and deliver.  Sympa is
> currently sending messages that were placed in the queue a day ago.
>
> Any suggestions on what I can try?
>   
How many mails are waiting in spool msg ? May be there is a lot of old 
bad messages in the spool that make "readdir"  very long operation.  I 
don't remember how this version deal with spools. I known it is much 
more better now. Did you check logs ? I doubt that Sympa is waiting 
without doing anything for hours. Logs will explain the problem.
> Also, do you know if I can upgrade directly to the most recent version of
> Sympa?
You should but you must check carefully the change log with a special 
attention to lines related to incompatible changes (they are starting 
with "****") . One of the major change is that now database is required 
and parameter data_source in list config file must be set to 'include2'.

Your problem is that automatic upgrade feature is newer then the versioj 
you are using so it may be a problem when upgrading. Be aware that you 
must  stop sendmail, apache ans all sympa process when upgrading in 
order to avoid concurrent  access to datas that Sympa upgrade process is 
changing.

Of course for such upgrade, you have to  save your database and all 
Sympa lists environment.