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  • From: Olivier Salaün - CRU <address@concealed>
  • To: Miles Fidelman <address@concealed>
  • Cc: "address@concealed" <address@concealed>
  • Subject: [sympa-users] Re: Re: archive conversion problem
  • Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:35:23 +0100

Hi Miles,

I had a try with this message on our server and got the following warning while running archived.pl in debug mode :
Warning: No recognized part in multipart/alternative; will try to decode last part
Strangely the message in correctly handled by thunderbird.

I suggest you submit this problem to mhonarc authors.

Miles Fidelman wrote:
Here you go.

It turns out that this seems to have been reported to the mhonarc bug tracking system, but nothing has been done about it.  YahooGroups apparantly generates some really badly formed HTML - that Mhonarc simply ignores

I haven't found a work-around yet, so any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Miles

Olivier Salaün - CRU wrote:
Miles,

Could you please provide samples of such problematic messages with both the original message and the generated HTML page.

Miles Fidelman wrote:
I just migrated a list from Yahoo Groups to Sympa.  Went fairly smoothly - though it was sort of a pain having to manually set each user's reception mode for lack of an easy import mechanism.

Anyway... the one thing that really hasn't worked completely is migrating the archives.

The steps:
- used yahoo2mbox.pl (wonderful script!) to suck the archives out of yahoo into an mbox file
- used mbox2sympa.pl to generate log files from the mbox file
- used arc2webarc.pl to burst the log files, create the monthly archive directories, and populate the arctxt subdirectories
- went into the wwsympa admin page and ran "rebuild archives" for the list

This seems to have created all the html files and indices, and such, BUT.....

A goodly number of the resulting archive pages have empty bodies.  The headers are there, and there are bodies in the source message files, but mhonarc seems to have created html pages with no message body.

Any thoughts, suggestions, etc.?


>From address@concealed Mon Jan 30 19:46:13 2006 Return-Path: <address@concealed> X-Sender: address@concealed X-Apparently-To: address@concealed Received: (qmail 8375 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2006 03:46:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2006 03:46:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) (216.148.227.152) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2006 03:46:12 -0000 Received: from Dragon (c-24-60-170-39.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[24.60.170.39]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20060131034600m1200k7sqje>; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 03:46:08 +0000 Message-ID: <037101c62618$d30b1fb0$6401a8c0@Dragon> To: <address@concealed> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:45:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_036E_01C625EE.E486C700" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Originating-IP: 216.148.227.152 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Greer Swiston" <address@concealed> From: "Greer Swiston" <address@concealed> Reply-To: "Greer Swiston" <address@concealed> Subject: Thoughts on "Stand for Children" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=31391660; y=LX52Z_cqv-f9Tel1gVtMIeFZTZsdyKC-GjRKiMTFCexONT8 X-Yahoo-Profile: gswiston X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 1 ------=_NextPart_000_036E_01C625EE.E486C700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Who attended the kick-off meeting last week for "Stand for Children"? The turn out was great and I thought the presentations were extremely well = done. The organizers should definitely be commended. I was very encouraged to hear that the concerns included class size, curric= ulum and building maintenance. I was also encouraged by the plans to appe= al to diverse groups of people, not only those with children in the public = school system. However, I was a bit disturbed by the presentation from the keynote speaker= who seemed terribly focused on measuring how a community valued education = purely on the amount of money they were willing to spend and the increases = they were willing to commit to. I fear that this money focus portrayal of = SfC is just the ammunition the City needs to blame any attempt at an overri= de on the SfC ... even if not all the overrides would necessarily be target= ted for education. I'm concerned if we think of the government as responsible for educating *o= ur* children (as opposed to *the* children) ... that if our children aren't= getting what they need ... somehow the government owes us. Remember how ma= ny taxpayers do NOT have children in the public school system and they pay = the same taxes. In fact, not only are we NOT taxed more for having childr= en, we actually get tax breaks for having children. We pay the government to provide public education for the good of society. = How much our children partake of/rely on that public education or not is = either our=20 decision/choice/lifestyle or fate. However, as parents of children in the public school system, we have a uniq= ue perspective in helping to keep the quality of the public school=20 system in balance and on track. The children are key to the future of our= society, regardless whether they are ours or someone elses. To a certain= =20 extent, the other taxpayers are counting on us to make sure that we, as a s= ociety, are getting our money's worth because the reason we invest in the=20 children is so that the future of our society is continued and will prosper= . If our public education is not contributing to this goal, then flags need= to=20 be raised. The "Newton Safe and Strong" group was the scapegoat for the last override.= They were fighting for a good cause, the police, the firefighters and the= schools ... but the override was never promised to those causes and as a r= esult, did not necessarily go to those causes. I would hate to see SfC ge= t used in the same way. I would really like to support them in pushing on= the issues and fighting for resolution for key concerns regarding the stat= e of our public education system. Greer ------=_NextPart_000_036E_01C625EE.E486C700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1"=
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2604" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Who attended the kick-off meeting last wee=
k for="20"
"Stand for Children"?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The turn out was great and I thought the=20
presentations were extremely well done.&nbsp;&nbsp; The organizers should=20
definitely be commended.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was very encouraged to hear that the con=
cerns=20
included class size, curriculum and building maintenance.&nbsp;&nbsp; I was=
 also=20
encouraged by the plans to appeal to diverse groups of people, not only tho=
se=20
with children in the public school system.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>However, I was a bit disturbed by the pres=
entation=20
from&nbsp;the&nbsp;keynote speaker who seemed terribly focused&nbsp;on meas=
uring=20
how a community valued education purely on the amount of money they were wi=
lling=20
to spend and the increases they were willing to commit to.&nbsp; I fear tha=
t=20
this money focus portrayal of SfC is just the ammunition the City needs to =
blame=20
any attempt at an override on the SfC ... even if not all the overrides wou=
ld=20
necessarily be targetted for education.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm concerned if we think of the governmen=
t as=20
responsible for educating *our* children (as opposed to *the* children) ...=
 that=20
if our children aren't getting what they need ... somehow the government ow=
es=20
us. Remember how many taxpayers do NOT have children in the public school s=
ystem=20
and they pay the same taxes.&nbsp;&nbsp; In fact, not only are we NOT taxed=
 more=20
for having children, we actually get tax breaks for having children.<BR><BR=
  
We=20
    
pay the government to provide public education for the good of=20
society.&nbsp;&nbsp; How much our children partake of/rely on&nbsp;that pub=
lic=20
education or not is either our <BR>decision/choice/lifestyle or=20
fate.<BR><BR>However, as parents of children in the public school system, w=
e=20
have a unique perspective in helping to keep the quality of the public scho=
ol=20
<BR>system in balance and on track.&nbsp;&nbsp; The children are key to the=
=20
future of our society, regardless whether they are ours or someone=20
elses.&nbsp;&nbsp; To a certain <BR>extent, the other taxpayers are countin=
g on=20
us to make sure that we, as a society, are getting our money's worth becaus=
e the=20
reason we invest in the <BR>children is so that the future of our society i=
s=20
continued and will prosper. If our public education is not contributing to =
this=20
goal, then flags need to <BR>be raised.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The "Newton Safe and Strong" group was the=
=20
scapegoat for the last override.&nbsp; They were fighting for a good cause,=
 the=20
police, the firefighters and the schools ... but the override was never pro=
mised=20
to those causes and as a result,&nbsp;did not necessarily go to those=20
causes.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would hate to see SfC get used in the same=20
way.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would really like to support them in pushing on the issu=
es=20
and fighting for resolution for key concerns regarding the state of our pub=
lic=20
education system.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Greer</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
           
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  • From: "Greer Swiston" <address@concealed>
  • To: <address@concealed>
  • Subject: Thoughts on "Stand for Children"
  • Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:45:39 -0500



  • Thoughts on "Stand for Children", Greer Swiston

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