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["Eric Sandquist" <address@concealed>]

Well...  I have root control of the system... but how does one go about
compiling the fastcgi module when the apache source files have been removed?
If I can get the module compiled and then load it into apache as a module,
then I would certainly do so...  I am still seeking a resolution to this....

At any rate, thanks for the advice on the topics.conf...  I will attampt to
impliment that tomorrow...

If I can get this etup correctly, I may add it as a feature to the other
sites I host... in addition to the current majordomo installation.

The only thing that comes close to this is mailman, and it doesn't contain
the proper tools for taking care of the aliases.  They have to all be done
by hand, no way...  This bugger needs to be as automated as I can get it....

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Bernstein [mailto:address@concealed]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:39 PM
To: Eric Sandquist; address@concealed
Subject: RE: [sympa-users] When I try to run the sym-lynk wws in my
cgi-bin, I get a 500 error


One thing you may need to do is to create "topics.conf" in ~sympa/etc.
Can be blank I think, or can be copied from the sample somewhere, but
it doesn't get created at installation and Sympa crashes without it.  This
is apparently an installation bug that others (including me) have run
into -- Sympa team, can we get it fixed?

But as previously mentioned, if you can't run FastCGI because of your
virtual hosting situation, I would say pick a different list server.
WWSympa is essentially unusable as a regular CGI, since every single
click in the UI means waiting for the script to load and run anew.  Hell
on the system, and unacceptably slow especially for multiple users.

    adam
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Sandquist [mailto:address@concealed]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:19 PM
> To: address@concealed
> Subject: RE: [sympa-users] When I try to run the sym-lynk wws in my
> cgi-bin, I get a 500 error
>
>
> Here is a sample from my sympa log file of the errors:
>
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: WWSympa started
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Loading locale file fr.cat version
> 3.3a
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Loading locale file us.cat version
> 3.3a
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Loading locale file es.cat version
> 3.3.3
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Loading locale file de.cat version
> 3.3a
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Loading locale file it.cat version
> 2.5.4
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Loading locale file cn.cat version
> 2.8.1
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Loading locale file tw.cat version
2.5
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Loading locale file fi.cat version
> 2.5.4
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Loading locale file pl.cat version
> 2.8.1
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Loading locale file cz.cat version
> 3.1b.12
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Loading locale file hu.cat version
> 3.3a
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Loading locale file ro.cat version
> 3.3a
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Loading locale file et.cat version
> 3.3a
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Unable to read
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Unable to open scenario file
> topics_visibility., please report to listmaster
> Jul 23 19:14:12 josiah wwsympa[6138]: internal error : configuration for
> operation topics_visibility is not yet performed by scenario
> Jul 23 19:14:13 josiah wwsympa[6138]: [client 216.138.72.34]
> do_sendpasswd(address@concealed)
> Jul 23 19:14:13 josiah wwsympa[6138]: Cannot create
> /address@concealed :
> Permission denied
> Jul 23 19:14:13 josiah wwsympa[6138]: [client 216.138.72.34]
do_loginrequest
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Sandquist [mailto:address@concealed]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 6:58 PM
> To: address@concealed
> Subject: RE: [sympa-users] When I try to run the sym-lynk wws in my
> cgi-bin, I get a 500 error
>
>
> OK.. due to an error on my part, I lost your replies... however, I did
read
> them.
>
> I am unable to use the fastcgi service, since I am using a managed server
> and the source for my apache has been removed and recompiling it would
void
> my service agreement.  If someone has another way to get fastcgi loaded
let
> me know...
>
> THe whole problem seems to be a permissions issue when attampting to run
as
> a regular cgi.  It seems that for a script to run it must have the same
name
> and group as the owner of the virtual server it is running in. So, for the
> site I am trying to get this working for - www.messianicgroups.com, it is
> messianic.messianicgrp.  So if I copy wwsympa.fcgi to my cgi-bin for this
> server and set the uid.gid for this it runs, but it does not interact with
> the 4 scripts running in the background.
>
> Why? because the uid.gid is different.  The background scripts are running
> as sympa.sympa.
>
> So, is the only method to correct this to recompile sympa into the
> messianicgroups directory and set the uid.gid to messianic.messianic.grp?
> Or do I need to create a virtual server under apache for sympa?
>
> I tried using the c prog modification in the documentation... it compiles,
> it runs from the command line, but when I attempt to call it using my
> browser from cgi-bin, I get the 500 error again... if you want to see:
>
> www.messianicgroups.com/cgi-bin/wwsympa.fcgi - this works, sort of but
> doesn't really do anything..
> www.messianicgroups.com/cgi-bin/test.cgi - gives a 500 error
> www.messianicgroups.com.cgi-bin/wws - is a link to the wwsympa.fcgi in the
> sympa installation folder, it gives a 500 error too..
>
>
> www.messianicgroups.com/wws - gives 404 error
>
> Currently httpd.conf for this vserver is:
>
> <virtualhost www.messianicgroups.com>
> ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /www/messianicgroups/cgi-bin/
> ScriptAlias /cgi-messianicgroups/ /www/messianicgroups/cgi-bin/
> ScriptAlias /mailman/ /www/messianicgroups/mailman/cgi-bin/
> Alias /wws /www/sympa/cgi/wwsympa.fcgi
> Alias /pipermail/ /www/messianicgroups/mailman/archives/public/
> User messianic
> Group messianicgrp
> ServerAdmin address@concealed
> ServerName www.messianic.com
> ErrorDocument 404 /missing.html
> DocumentRoot /www/messianicgroups
> TransferLog logs/messianicgroups-access-log
> </virtualhost>
>
>
> Am I missing something???  Or did this "Custom RH7.2" bite me again?/
>
> Eric Sandquist
> Systems Engineer - IHMS.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Sandquist [mailto:address@concealed]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 5:21 PM
> To: address@concealed
> Subject: [sympa-users] When I try to run the sym-lynk wws in my cgi-bin,
> I get a 500 error
>
>
>
> When I try to run wws in my cgi-bin, I get a 500 - Internal Server Error.
> If I copy wwsympa.fcgi to the cgi-bin and run it, it appears to run OK at
> first, but it seems that most of the functions just don't work...
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> <virtualhost www.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com>
> ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /www/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/cgi-bin/
> ScriptAlias /cgi-xxxxxxxxxxxxx/ /www/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/cgi-bin/
> ScriptAlias /mailman/ /www/xxxxxxxxxxxxx/mailman/cgi-bin/
> Alias /wws /www/sympa/cgi/wwsympa.fcgi
> Alias /pipermail/ /www/xxxxxxxxxxx/mailman/archives/public/
> User xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Group xxxxxxxxxxxxxxgrp
> ServerAdmin address@concealed
> ServerName www.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com
> ErrorDocument 404 /missing.html
> DocumentRoot /www/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> TransferLog logs/xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-access-log
> </virtualhost>
>
> Also tried:
>
> <virtualhost www.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com>
> ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /www/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/cgi-bin/
> ScriptAlias /cgi-xxxxxxxxxxxxx/ /www/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/cgi-bin/
> ScriptAlias /mailman/ /www/xxxxxxxxxxxxx/mailman/cgi-bin/
> ScriptAlias /wws/ /www/sympa/cgi/wwsympa.fcgi/
> Alias /pipermail/ /www/xxxxxxxxxxx/mailman/archives/public/
> User xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Group xxxxxxxxxxxxxxgrp
> ServerAdmin address@concealed
> ServerName www.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com
> ErrorDocument 404 /missing.html
> DocumentRoot /www/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> TransferLog logs/xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-access-log
> </virtualhost>
>