Developers of Sympa

[IKEDA Soji <address@concealed>]

Dear all,


I broke down recent content of Sympatic.pm to each pragma, then added my
suggestion.

If you are impatient, see "Interim conclusion" at end.


Pragmas
-------

* use strict;
* use warnings;
* use English qw< -no_match_vars >;

  I suggest they should be mandatory (strict should be placed at
  first because some linters complain if it is not).

* use feature qw< say >;
* use feature qw< state >;

  I suggest they may be mandatory, because use of these feature
  depends on decision by coder, and existence of them won't affect.

* use utf8;
* use open IO => ':utf8_strict';
* binmode STDERR, ':utf8_strict';
* binmode STDOUT, ':utf8_strict';
* binmode STDIN,  ':utf8_strict';
* use charnames qw< :full :short >;
* use feature qw< unicode_strings >; # 5.11 or later
* use feature qw< unicode_eval >;    # 5.16 or later
* use feature qw< fc >;              # 5.16 or later
* # readdir is Unicode-aware
* # readlink is Unicode-aware
* # glob is Unicode-aware
* # @ARGV is Unicode-aware

  They were included in utf8::all (it turned out that utf8::all has
  been baselessly included in Sympatic proposal).

  I suggest we would be better to discuss on use of them by each.
  About ongoing discussion, see the thread "Sympatic unicode?".

  N.B.: Currently, the feature fc is used on Sympa-6.2. Others are
  not used (except possible uses in local context).

* use Function::Parameters;

  I suggest we would be better to discuss on use of this.

* use Moo;
* use MooX::LvalueAttribute;

  I suggest they may be optional, because these features are not
  always necessary.

* Any others not included in Sympatic proposal (e.g. Path::Tiny)

  I suggest they may be discussed in another oppotunity.


Interim conclusion
------------------

As interim conclusion, minimal set of pragmatic modules may be,
currently:

| use strict;
| use warnings;
| use English qw< -no_match_vars >;
| use feature qw< say >;
| use feature qw< state >;

We would be better to discuss about adding the others (either
mandatorily or optionally) as described in above, especially:

* use Function::Parameters;
* Any features related to Unicode (see above).


Regards,
-- Soji


On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 09:52:27 +0100
Marc Chantreux <address@concealed> wrote:

> hello people,
> 
> I gave a talk at fosdem explaining the goal of the new Sympatic module
> 
> https://fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/sympa_sympatic/
> 
> which is basically what was discussed during the hackathon.
> 
> A first release on CPAN is here
> 
> https://metacpan.org/source/MARCC/Sympatic-0.0/lib/Sympatic.pm
> 
> both the module and documentation is available here
> 
> https://github.com/sympa-community/p5-sympatic
> 
> and any feedback warmly welcomed. i hope you'll like it but don't
> hesitate to share frankly about it as it's the best way to improve it
> (i don't mind straight but construvtive quotes).
> 
> regards
> marc


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