Developers of Sympa

[David Verdin <address@concealed>]

Hi, it's me again,


On 19/02/2018 18:25, Stefan Hornburg (Racke) wrote:
> On 02/19/2018 09:41 AM, David Verdin wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Soji just asked on the Sympa discussion channel why eiro wants to use autodie.
> >
> > I'll try an answer here.
> >
> > First: Sympatic: The idea of Sympatic is to give future developers a 
> > boilerplate: include all modules that should be
> > used wherever in Sympa. So adding "use Sympatic;" includes a bunch of modules; adding 
> > "use Sympatic -oo" includes the
> > same modules plus Moo.
> In my opinion using Moo in a module would be the standard, so it should be 
> included by default.
Not necessarily. for example Sympa::Tools::* module don't really need 
the object paradigm. If we plan to make them available on CPAN, it would 
be rude to impose the usage of Moo ii it is not needed.
So I think the -oo option is quite welcome.
> > Second: autodie. it's included in Sympatic. Using this modules will raise a 
> > die whenever the code can't succeed. eiro's
> > argument is to make sure an exception will be raised whenever the code does 
> > not behave as intended.
> >
> > The argument in favour of this module is the decreasing number of lines to 
> > maintina to raise exceptions.
> I'm not in favour of this - we should really take care about the error 
> handling by ourselves. Also some operations are
> going to fail even if that is acceptable (open on custom files).
OK, that's a clear point of view. Let's read eiro's argument in favour 
of autodie now.

Thanks for your answer -and thanks to Soji's answer!

Regards,

David
> Regards
>           Racke
>
> > The argument against it, in my opinion, is that, when reading a piece of 
> > code, we won't know that an exception can be
> > raised in that exact place. I think we should maintain a minimum level of 
> > hand-made exceptions with explicit exception
> > typing to be able to handle them correctly; the idea is that, in some cases, 
> > exceptions should make Sympa die, and in
> > other cases it should not.
> >
> > What is your opinion on this?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > David

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