Developers of Sympa

[David Verdin <address@concealed>]

Dear Soji,

I agree with you: We need to keep proper legal information and we'll take your template. Thsi template works, is a good short term solution and we'll keep further discussion about licence and discmlaimers for when we are not more than one year late to issue a new Sympa version.

As I'm talking about it: we need to issue a Sympa version soon. our community will start to wonder why no Sympa version is issued. They can start to think that the project is dead, as nothing new was issued since more than one year.

What we want here:

• Have an alpha in production in november
• Issue a beta in december.
• Have a stable version in the beginning of 2014 (probably February).

I'll take the latest discussions in the developpepers mailing list, propose a decision, and we'll stick with it for the 7.0.

We need to issue a Sympa version, or the project will be in a very bad shape.

Cheers,

David

Le 19/10/13 10:56, IKEDA Soji a écrit :

Hi RENATER folks,

About copyright notice and statement of permission ---

I wrote at 18 April:

* Sympa is the intellectual property as deliverables by RENATER.

  Format and content of "copyright notice" would be decided
  according to RENATER's policy.  So I withhold opinion about them.

However, there are no decision about it.  So I propose the template.
If necessary, please request Legal Deparatment of RENATER to check
if these statements are appropriate.

As I said earler, I cannot make decision on this issue.


This is template.  At beginning of source file, this text will be placed:
-------------------- >8 -------------------- >8 --------------------
# Sympa - SYsteme de Multi-Postage Automatique
#
# Copyright (c) 1997, 1998, 1999 Institut Pasteur & Christophe Wolfhugel
# Copyright (c) 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005,
# 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 Comite Reseau des Universites
# Copyright (c) 2011, 2012, 2013 GIP RENATER
#
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
# the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
# (at your option) any later version.
#
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
# GNU General Public License for more details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
# along with this program.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.

<<The code begins at this line.>>
-------------------- 8< -------------------- 8< --------------------
End of template.


About credit to author(s) I'll write later.

Regards,

--- Soji


On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 12:04:25 +0900
IKEDA Soji <address@concealed> wrote:

Hi all again,

On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 18:03:53 +0200
Guillaume Rousse <address@concealed> wrote:

Le 10/04/2013 14:41, address@concealed a écrit :

Revision
    9082
Author
    sikeda
Date
    2013-04-10 14:41:16 +0200 (mer. 10 avril 2013)


      Log Message

[bug][#8066] [Submitted by X. Bachelot] FSF had moved.

Which is yet another reason to restart a discussion I once suggested: do 
we really need to have so much duplicated informations in every file, 
whereas a simple reference to a centralised verbatim copy of license, 
copyright and authorship information would be enough ?

That's just ugly to have 16 lines of legal information, whose usefulness 
is not even proved, for a single line of code, such as  src/Makefile.am 
file (sympa-cleanup branch) case, for instance.

I've just checked automake source file, they refer to FSF web site, 
which offers better perenity garanties than a postal address:
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
# along with this program.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.

I read GPL Howto:

  http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-howto.html

Accroding to this Howto, a "copyright notice" and a "statement of
copying permission" should be added to "each source file" of program
to use license (GPL) validly.

* Sympa is the intellectual property as deliverables by RENATER.

  Format and content of "copyright notice" would be decided
  according to RENATER's policy.  So I withhold opinion about them.

* Credit to authors cannot be a substitute for copyright notice.

  Conversely, there may not be any problems of keeping it.

* The Howto recommends "statement of copying permission" including
  three paragraphs.

  I suppose it would better to be added to all sources, regardless
  to their sizes.


Regards,

--- Soji

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