Developers of Sympa

[IKEDA Soji <address@concealed>]

Guillaume,

I know that You are a member of INRIA and INRIA is a member of
GIP RENATER.

However, I did't request the comment of yourself on this issue.

Thank you for your understanding,

--- Soji

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:29:30 +0200
Guillaume Rousse <address@concealed> wrote:

> Le 18/04/2013 05:04, IKEDA Soji a écrit :
> > Hi all again,
> >
> > On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 18:03:53 +0200
> > Guillaume Rousse <address@concealed> wrote:
> >
> >> Le 10/04/2013 14:41, address@concealed a écrit :
> >>> Revision
> >>>      9082
> >>> Author
> >>>      sikeda
> >>> Date
> >>>      2013-04-10 14:41:16 +0200 (mer. 10 avril 2013)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>        Log Message
> >>>
> >>> [bug][#8066] [Submitted by X. Bachelot] FSF had moved.
> >> Which is yet another reason to restart a discussion I once suggested: do
> >> we really need to have so much duplicated informations in every file,
> >> whereas a simple reference to a centralised verbatim copy of license,
> >> copyright and authorship information would be enough ?
> >>
> >> That's just ugly to have 16 lines of legal information, whose usefulness
> >> is not even proved, for a single line of code, such as  src/Makefile.am
> >> file (sympa-cleanup branch) case, for instance.
> >>
> >> I've just checked automake source file, they refer to FSF web site,
> >> which offers better perenity garanties than a postal address:
> >> # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
> >> # along with this program.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
> >
> > I read GPL Howto:
> >
> >    http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-howto.html
> >
> > Accroding to this Howto, a "copyright notice" and a "statement of
> > copying permission" should be added to "each source file" of program
> > to use license (GPL) validly.
> >
> > * Sympa is the intellectual property as deliverables by RENATER.
> >
> >    Format and content of "copyright notice" would be decided
> >    according to RENATER's policy.  So I withhold opinion about them.
> >
> > * Credit to authors cannot be a substitute for copyright notice.
> >
> >    Conversely, there may not be any problems of keeping it.
> >
> > * The Howto recommends "statement of copying permission" including
> >    three paragraphs.
> >
> >    I suppose it would better to be added to all sources, regardless
> >    to their sizes.
> Just because it is written in a some document does not make it better 
> for everyone. And I personnaly prefer "simplicity and consistency" over 
> "FSF compliance". Especially as the current reality shows than:
> 1) maintaining this duplicated information is painful, and generally 
> considered as useless
> 2) the associated risk is null: even with 11 years outdated legal 
> statement, no one tried to sue Renater for copyright infrigement...
> 
> What we really need here is an authoritative and up-to-date copyright 
> notice, as well as some ways of crediting authors and contributors 
> correctly. I think everyone will agree here.
> 
> Now, the decision to blindly duplicate this information in every piece 
> of file contained in Sympa repository has to be balanced against the 
> fact than it will probably be outdated again in a few monthes...
> 
> -- 
> Guillaume Rousse
> INRIA, Direction des systèmes d'information
> Domaine de Voluceau
> Rocquencourt - BP 105
> 78153 Le Chesnay
> Tel: 01 39 63 58 31
> 


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