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[David Carter <address@concealed>]

On 20/06/2025 10:56, Xavier Bachelot wrote:

> Of course Sympa itself will only pick up any updates when it is restarted.
> Sympa will be restarted on upgrade, check 'rpm -q --scripts sympa'

We update the Sympa rpm itself separately: I would never automate that.

In fact I maintain my own Sympa rpm which has a handful of local 
patches, although it is based on your work (thank you!).

I typically spend a couple of weeks reporting and working around bugs 
each time that I upgrade Sympa, so I really want to do that on my own 
schedule. (Please note: This really isn't intended as a critisism of the 
Sympa developers or development process. Unfortunately you can only pick 
up a subset of issues running a release candidate in a test environment: 
it tends to be the users who find and report changes in behaviour, and I 
probably have more users than most).

However the Sympa application requires Perl and a whole host of Perl 
modules and system libaries, any of which might be replaced by a "dnf 
update".

The various sympa, wwsympa and sympasoap processes are all long running 
processes, so any updates to components provided by the operating system 
(including any security patches) will only be picked up when you restart 
Sympa.

> > For what it is worth
> >
> > /usr/lib/systemd/system/wwsympa.service
> > Restart=on-failure
> >
> > seems to have made the shutdown process less likely to hang, so I will stick 
> > with that unless there turn out to be negative side effects.
> Will look at that. What is Restart set to in the default rpm unitfile ? Is 
> that Always ?
> (sorry, typing from a phone w/o acces to my linux machines)

Yes, the rpm unitfile default to:

Restart=always.

It still isn't entirely clear to me what "Always" means here, but I 
really don't want various daemons to be restarted when I am actually 
trying to shut things down.

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David Carter                             Email: address@concealed
University of Cambridge,
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