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["Widerski, Betty" <address@concealed>]

Yes, now that I am more aware of how this works I am planning to set up a create template with that restriction.

 

 

Betty Widerski

Cloud & Server Engineering – HBS Information Technology

HARVARD  BUSINESS  SCHOOL     

Shad 108 N | address@concealed | T: 617.495.6642

 

 

 

From: McLaren, Terry <address@concealed>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 9:57 AM
To: Widerski, Betty <address@concealed>; Lorenz, Sabine (SCC) <address@concealed>; address@concealed
Subject: RE: Question re member_include subscriber deletion behavior

 

Additionally, you can prevent unsubscribe events from the parent list (listName-all) by setting the Admin > Edit List Config > Privileges - “Who can unsubscribe” setting to “impossible (closed)”.   This would force the list owners to manage membership from the children lists; if that’s the behavior you want to achieve.

 

Terry McLaren

 

From: address@concealed <address@concealed> On Behalf Of Widerski, Betty
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 7:26 AM
To: Lorenz, Sabine (SCC) <address@concealed>; address@concealed
Subject: RE: [sympa-users] Question re member_include subscriber deletion behavior

 

Thanks! That is exactly what I needed to know 😊

 

 

Betty Widerski

Cloud & Server Engineering – HBS Information Technology

HARVARD  BUSINESS  SCHOOL     

Shad 108 N | address@concealed | T: 617.495.6642

 

 

 

From: Lorenz, Sabine (SCC) <address@concealed>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 5:42 AM
To: Widerski, Betty <address@concealed>; address@concealed
Subject: AW: Question re member_include subscriber deletion behavior

 

Hello Betty,

 

I don't know if anyone has answered this question directly for you yet.

If not: In the case you described, the users are not removed from the all-list but excluded from this list.

You can see this on the subscribers page by clicking on the "Exclude" button.

 

This mechanism is described on the https://sympa-community.github.io/manual/customize/data-sources.html page under "Excluding members from dynamic update".

 

Kind regards,

Sabine

 

Von: address@concealed <address@concealed> Im Auftrag von Widerski, Betty
Gesendet: Freitag, 1. April 2022 21:25
An: address@concealed
Betreff: [sympa-users] Question re member_include subscriber deletion behavior

 

Hi –

 

The environment:

- I have a series of lists, say, address@concealed, address@concealed, list3@lists. domain. 

- I have a list, address@concealed, into whose “Subscribers defined in an external data source (member_include)” I have added list1, list2, and list3.

- Thus all-list subscribers are the combined subscribers from list1, list2, and list3 and they appear in all-list’s Subscriber Table with Sources being “include_list list1” (or whichever list was the data source for that address)

 

Now I want to unsubscribe address@concealed, but I am an inexperienced list owner. So instead of deleting user1 from their originating list, say list1, and then “synchronizing members with data sources” on All-list I instead delete user1 from All-list’s subscriber table.

 

That leaves user1 no longer subscribed to All-list, but I have NOT unsubscribed user1 from list1.

 

The question:

In the situation where I have deleted a list’s subscriber that comes from another list’s data, but NOT deleted them from the originating list, I expected that if I clicked “Synchronize members with data sources” on All-list then user1 would reappear as a subscriber on All-lists, because user1 is still in lists1.

 

What’s happening is user1 does NOT reappear as subscribed to All-list after synchronization.

 

Is this expected behavior?

 

If so then I need to be careful about who can own a list with included members to avoid this mistake.

 

Thanks.

Betty

 

Betty Widerski

Cloud & Server Engineering – HBS Information Technology

HARVARD  BUSINESS  SCHOOL     

Shad 108 N | address@concealed | T: 617.495.6642