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[Pat Allen <address@concealed>]

Hi everyone,

I've not heard anything back on this since David's initial post on May 15. This is really a bother. Can somebody possibly explain why a NDR isn't being generated when a non-subscriber sends to a private list?

Thanks!
Pat

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From: "Pat Allen" <address@concealed>
To: "sympa-users" <address@concealed>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Rejected mail not sending NDR?

Hi David,

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I was on holiday.

The complete ~sympa/bin/scenari/send.private scenari is:

title.gettext restricted to subscribers

is_subscriber([listname],[sender])             smtp,smime,md5    -> do_it
is_editor([listname],[sender])                 smtp,smime,md5    -> do_it
is_owner([listname],[sender])                  smtp,smime,md5    -> do_it
true()                                         smtp,md5,smime  -> reject(reason='send_subscriber')

Thanks for the help.
Pat

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From: "David Verdin" <address@concealed>
To: "Pat Allen" <address@concealed>
Cc: address@concealed
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:25:03 AM
Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Rejected mail not sending NDR?

Hi Pat,

I can't see the end of the last rule in your scenario (after the "true()" condition). Is it "smtp,smime,md5    ->   reject" ?


David
Le 14/05/12 18:37, Pat Allen a écrit :

Hi David,

Thanks for the quick response. I haven't customized these particular scenario. Here's what the send.private scenari looks like:

title.gettext restricted to subscribers

is_subscriber([listname],[sender])             smtp,smime,md5    -> do_it
is_editor([listname],[sender])                 smtp,smime,md5    -> do_it
is_owner([listname],[sender])                  smtp,smime,md5    -> do_it
true()

Just to do a sanity check I grep'd for "quiet" in /bin/etc/scenari and etc/scenari and it was only referenced in subscribe.open_quiet.

Pat

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From: "David Verdin" <address@concealed>
To: address@concealed
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 8:28:55 AM
Subject: Re: [sympa-users] Rejected mail not sending NDR?

Hi Pat,

What "send" scenario do you use for these lists? Is the "rejct" option is followed by "quiet", then the message is silently dismissed. remove the "quiet" to notify the user that her message was rejected.

Regards,

David

Le 14/05/12 16:33, Pat Allen a écrit :

Good morning,

I'm currently running Sympa 6.1.3.  Some users have reported that they do not receive NDR messages when sending to lists which are restricted. There is no notification to the user that the message is rejected. They assume that the mail was delivered successfully. I was surprised because I thought this used to work.

I configured a test list to accept mail only from subscribers and attempted to send a message to it. The sympa.log shows that it is being rejected:
May 14 07:09:11 xxxxxx sympa[19936]: notice main::DoFile() Processing /home/sympa/spool/msg/test@xxxxxx.mbari.org.1337004546.24320 ; sender: Pat Allen <address@concealed>  ; message-id: <address@concealed>
May 14 07:09:11 xxxxxx sympa[19936]: info main::DoMessage() Processing message for test with priority 5, <address@concealed>
May 14 07:09:11 xxxxxx sympa[19936]: notice main::DoMessage() Message for test from address@concealed rejected() because sender not allowed
May 14 07:09:11 xxxxxx sympa[19936]: notice Moving bad file test@xxxxxx.mbari.org.1337004546.24320 to bad/

The maillog simply shows the message arriving but no outgoing NDR:
May 14 07:09:06 xxxxxx sendmail[24318]: q4EE96dP024318: from=<address@concealed>, size=1808, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<address@concealed>, bodytype=7BIT, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=asdf.shore.mbari.org [134.89.12.31]
May 14 07:09:07 xxxxxx sendmail[24319]: q4EE96dP024318: to="| /home/sympa/bin/queue test@xxxxxx.mbari.org", ctladdr=<test@xxxxxx.mbari.org> (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=32020, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent

Is there a bug which has been introduced or fixed between 6.1.3 and 6.1.11? I couldn't find anything in the archives.

Thanks,
Pat

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Pat Allen (address@concealed & http://www.mbari.org/staff/pat)
Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute (MBARI)
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