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[Elwyn Davies <address@concealed>]

Hi, Charles.

I am glad you found my stuff useful!

As far as I can see, you are pretty much done.

You seem to think you have a problem here in that you have to paste this in 
manually..

> > And finally, the hack that I stick in the top of that same file to handle 
> > the
> > bounces, posts, etc.:
> > 
> > # this seems to be necessary, probably belongs somewhere else
> > /^(sympa)\@lists\.hostcompanion\.com$/
> > $1+lists.hostcompanion.com@sympalist.
> > /^(listmaster)\@lists\.hostcompanion\.com$/
> > $1+lists.hostcompanion.com@sympalist.
> > 
Well you could do some extra stuff to generate this automatically with
the first instance of the list, but I didn't.

Its a once per virtual host operation, so I just left it for manual
config.  I only really cared about making extra lists (I only had one
host to worry about so it wasn't a big deal).  You will have to do it
for each virtual host.

This line is *NOT* required (and will probably screw things up)
/^(.*+owner\@lists\.hostcompanion\.com$/
> > $1+lists.hostcompanion.com@sympaowner.
> > 

The aliases already cope with address@concealed etc

One point which is not clear form your mail is that it is essential that
there are no extra newlines in the added lines.. if they are really like
this in the virtual host aliases file, then they won't work.  You need
something like:
/^(root|postmaster)\@lists\.hostcompanion\.com$/      
address@concealed
/^(sympa|listmaster)\@lists\.hostcompanion\.com$/     
$1+lists.hostcompanion.com@sympalist.

where there is no newline after .com$/

BTW
If you are willing to send me the updated conf.pm etc files, I'll add
them to the description so that people can use them with the latest
version.  I haven't had occasion to upversion my installation yet as it
does everything we needed (very simple requirements) and the password
improvement was not essential.  For our purposes the shared documents
folders were really helpful!

Regards,
Elwyn Davies

On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 09:14 +0200, address@concealed wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm having a tough time getting this setup properly for a non-profit I'm
> working with.
> 
> I read up on Sympa's features and it looks like the right choice - it covers
> three things they need - web-based posting, discussion lists, and announce
> lists.  And it covers things I need like a decent permissions system and
> bounce processing.
> 
> After reading about the various Postfix integration methods, this one seemed
> like it was the best in that it would not make me a backscatter source (the
> other options for virtual setups do rejects after the message enters the 
> queue
> due to their greedy regex matching):
> 
> http://www.folly.org.uk/sympa/sympa_config_03.html
> 
> It's a nice setup, but the changes to Sympa since that was released left me
> having to patch up Conf.pm, alias_manage.pl, and confdefs.pm.
> 
> This seems to work however - all my address@concealed mappings work,
> those aliases are generated automatically by the patched alias manager.  The
> Conf.pm changes are working fine (set flags in each virthost robot.conf).
> 
> What I seem to be missing since I'm looking at so many Postfix tutorials, 
> many
> of which are now outdated, is how to handle my address@concealed mappings.
> I can't find a decent reference for that.  Below is my current postfix 
> setup,
> which seems to work, but I need to add a mapping manually for each host as
> noted in the config.
> 
> Let's start with main.cf:
> 
> #
> # SYMPA STUFF
> #
> transport_maps = regexp:/usr/local/etc/postfix/transport_sympa
> 
> # Set the concurrency for delivery to Sympa
> sympalist_destination_recipient_limit = 1
> symparequest_destination_recipient_limit = 1
> sympaeditor_destination_recipient_limit = 1
> sympasubscribe_destination_recipient_limit = 1
> sympaunsubscribe_destination_recipient_limit = 1
> sympabounce_destination_recipient_limit = 1
> 
> # Specify the virtual alias domain(s)
> virtual_alias_domains = lists.hostcompanion.com,lists.o4onyc.org
> 
> # Specify the virtual alias file(s) - this is the only per virthost config
> virtual_alias_maps = regexp:/usr/local/etc/sympa/postfix/
> lists.hostcompanion.com,regexp:/usr/local/etc/sympa/postfix/lists.o4onyc.org
> 
> Then the transport maps:
> 
> # Transport map for Sympa virtual domain transports
> /^.*\@sympalist$/         sympalist:
> /^.*\@symparequest$/      symparequest:
> /^.*\@sympaeditor$/       sympaeditor:
> /^.*\@sympasubscribe$/    sympasubscribe:
> /^.*\@sympaunsubscribe$/  sympaunsubscribe:
> /^.*\@sympaowner$/       sympabounce:
> 
> And master.cf:
> 
> # Sympa mailing list manager transports
> sympalist     unix  -       n       n       -       -       pipe
>   flags=RF user=sympa argv=/usr/local/libexec/sympa/queue 
> ${user}@${extension}
> symparequest     unix  -       n       n       -       -       pipe
>   flags=RF user=sympa argv=/usr/local/libexec/sympa/queue ${user}-request@
> ${extension}
> sympaeditor     unix  -       n       n       -       -       pipe
>   flags=RF user=sympa argv=/usr/local/libexec/sympa/queue ${user}-editor@
> ${extension}
> sympasubscribe     unix  -       n       n       -       -       pipe
>   flags=RF user=sympa argv=/usr/local/libexec/sympa/queue ${user}-subscribe@
> ${extension}
> sympaunsubscribe     unix  -       n       n       -       -       pipe
>   flags=RF user=sympa argv=/usr/local/libexec/sympa/queue 
> ${user}-unsubscribe@
> ${extension}
> sympabounce     unix  -       n       n       -       -       pipe
>   flags=RF user=sympa argv=/usr/local/libexec/sympa/bouncequeue ${user}
> 
> And now the aliases that are autogenerated for one virthost:
> 
> ## This virtual aliases file for domain lists.hostcompanion.com is dedicated
> to Sympa Mailing List Manager
> ## You should edit your Postfix main.cf file to declare it
> ##
> /^lists\.hostcompanion\.com$/            xxx
> ##
> #------------------------------ test1: list alias created 06 Sep 2011
> /^(test1)-(request|editor|owner|subscribe|unsubscribe)\@lists\.hostcompanion
> \.com$/    $1+lists.hostcompanion.com@sympa$2.
> /^(test1)\@lists\.hostcompanion\.com$/
> $1+lists.hostcompanion.com@sympalist.
> 
> And finally, the hack that I stick in the top of that same file to handle 
> the
> bounces, posts, etc.:
> 
> # this seems to be necessary, probably belongs somewhere else
> /^(sympa)\@lists\.hostcompanion\.com$/
> $1+lists.hostcompanion.com@sympalist.
> /^(listmaster)\@lists\.hostcompanion\.com$/
> $1+lists.hostcompanion.com@sympalist.
> /^(.*+owner\@lists\.hostcompanion\.com$/
> $1+lists.hostcompanion.com@sympaowner.
> 
> I'm pretty lost here - any input is appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Charles