Developers of Sympa

[IKEDA Soji <address@concealed>]

Hi folks,

As far as I remember, I haven't update this report for about two years.

> * Periodical releases of Sympa 6.2 have been done. Recently they
>   were done by quarters[1] (if it is hard, releases may be done by
>   half a year).

Ongoing.  Almost every quarters a new stable release was out,
mainly due to bug fixes.  That's why reducing release frequency is
difficult.

* Refactoring:

> - Implementation on delayed requests.
> 
>   With web interface, bulk approval of requests (such as
>   DISTRIBUTE, SUBSCRIBE) can take long time and might cause
>   browser timeout.
> 
>   One solution is to add a new spool to keep requests already
>   approved (not requests to be approved -- it is there), and
>   maybe another daemon process simultaneously flushes them.
>   I'm not sure this solution is the best.

Not started yet.

>   - Refactoring datasources.  I want to start it in the end of this
>     year and probably may be done in the first half of next year. 

Refactoring has been done, and some regressions have been reported
and fixed.  See #693 and related issues:
https://github.com/sympa-community/sympa/issues/693

>     The goal is to define simple interface between datasource and
>     GUI (vue and so on).

Not started yet.  See also #20:
https://github.com/sympa-community/sympa/issues/20

>   - OO-based robots and configuration mechanism.

The final goal is improving the code to manipulate list/domain/site
configuration in uniform method.

It has not been finished.  Just the first step of refactoring has
been done.  See #924:
https://github.com/sympa-community/sympa/pull/924

> 
> ### The other refactorings
> 
> I think code for these things should be refactored:
> 
>   - Scenarios
> 
>   - Families

They have been done! 

About scenarios see #782 and related things:
https://github.com/sympa-community/sympa/pull/782

About families see #771 and related things:
https://github.com/sympa-community/sympa/pull/771

Though there were regression by these changes, but they have
been fixed.

Documentation about modules for these feature have revived.

                                *

The next report will be posted in June 2021, if I would remember.

Regards,
-- Soji


On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 12:15:14 +0900
IKEDA Soji <address@concealed> wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> Sorry for delay.  This is the follow up I have promised.
> 
> > * Periodical releases of Sympa 6.2 have been done. Recently they
> >   were done by quarters[1] (if it is hard, releases may be done by
> >   half a year).
> 
> Ongoing.  After the last post, 3 stable versions were released
> periodically (preceded by 5 beta) in this half year.
> 
> In addition, 1 irregular release was made for purpose of urgent fix.
> 
> The next stable release is planned at 20th March (probably).
> 
> > * Refactoring:
> > 
> >   - Many functions were refactored to be moved to "request" modules.
> >     This sort of refactoring will continue in the next year.
> >     The goal of this is making wwsympa, sympasoap and sympa.pl be
> >     thin wrappers of "request" modules.
> 
> I feel most of "request" modules have been implemented, if
> corresponding functions suit for this framework (see also below
> about datasource synchronization).
> 
> There are some issues:
> 
> - Implementation on delayed requests.
> 
>   With web interface, bulk approval of requests (such as
>   DISTRIBUTE, SUBSCRIBE) can take long time and might cause
>   browser timeout.
> 
>   One solution is to add a new spool to keep requests already
>   approved (not requests to be approved -- it is there), and
>   maybe another daemon process simultaneously flushes them.
>   I'm not sure this solution is the best.
> 
> - On web interface (described in below).
> 
> >   - Refactoring datasources.  I want to start it in the end of this
> >     year and probably may be done in the first half of next year. 
> >     The goal is to define simple interface between datasource and
> >     GUI (vue and so on).
> 
> I started working on this point (with delay of a year).
> A PR is submitted (See PR #516 https://git.io/fhOfR ), and I wish it
> being closed before the next stable in March.
> 
> In the next step, I hope we will be able to start thinking about new
> GUI.
> 
> 
> >   - Refactoring task manager and task spool. It will be done in the
> >     next year.
> >     The purpose is to rewrite fossilized code.
> 
> It has basically been done.  See PR #394 https://git.io/fNbVH .
> 
> >   - OO-based robots and configuration mechanism.
> >     It would be better to be done on separate branch and be merged
> >     into Sympa 7.
> 
> It has not been done.
> 
> 
> ### The other refactorings
> 
> I think code for these things should be refactored:
> 
>   - Scenarios
> 
>   - Families
> 
> Progress about these will be reported after more half year, around
> June.
> 
> 
> ### About web interface
> 
> Web interface has several problems, such as:
> 
> - Configuration editor.
> 
>   Functions to edit configuration (templates, scenarios, ...)
>   looks not suit for requiest framework described above.  However,
>   they are generally poor.  It would be better to be reconstructed.
> 
> - Web interface itself.
> 
>   It is a chunk of older codes, and on the whole a reinventing of
>   the web application framework.
> 
>   Moreover it obviously has several problems giving raise to
>   security risk (Note that all of CVE reports on Sympa in the past
>   were related to web interface).
> 
> IMO we were happy if we could throw older codes away and start
> implementing the new thing just now.  At least latter can be done.
> 
> I personally don't want to improve current web interface, but
> only will close flaws and bugs (Of course I won't disturb the
> others adding new features to it).
> 
>                                   *
> 
> That's all on my last half year.  Comments and suggestions are
> very appreciated.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> -- Soji
> 
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 13:44:25 +0900
> IKEDA Soji <address@concealed> wrote:
> 
> > Hi folks,
> > 
> > Half a year passed.  I want to follow up the last post in December.
> > 
> > On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 11:43:33 +0900
> > IKEDA Soji <address@concealed> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi folks,
> > > 
> > > I want to describe what I have done in this half year, and what I
> > > want to do in the future.
> > > 
> > > * Periodical releases of Sympa 6.2 have been done. Recently they
> > >   were done by quarters[1] (if it is hard, releases may be done by
> > >   half a year).
> > > 
> > >   I can do it at least for more one year.
> > 
> > Ongoing.  Made 2 stable releases as planned (another 1 withdrawn),
> > 1 patch release and 1 security fix.
> > 
> > The next stable release is planned at 21st June.
> > 
> > > * Refactoring:
> > > 
> > >   - Many functions were refactored to be moved to "request" modules.
> > >     This sort of refactoring will continue in the next year.
> > >     The goal of this is making wwsympa, sympasoap and sympa.pl be
> > >     thin wrappers of "request" modules.
> > 
> > I hardly could put it forward for this half year.  I spent time
> > moving documentation from older site, fixing some bugs (especially
> > things related to issue #11) and coping with security flaw.
> > 
> > Thus, my planned works described in below will evenly delay for
> > half a year.
> > 
> > >   - Refactoring datasources.  I want to start it in the end of this
> > >     year and probably may be done in the first half of next year. 
> > >     The goal is to define simple interface between datasource and
> > >     GUI (vue and so on).
> > > 
> > >   - Refactoring task manager and task spool. It will be done in the
> > >     next year.
> > >     The purpose is to rewrite fossilized code.
> > > 
> > >   - OO-based robots and configuration mechanism.
> > >     It would be better to be done on separate branch and be merged
> > >     into Sympa 7.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > -- Soji
> > > 
> > > [1] https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Solstice-%C3%A9quinoxe
> > 
> > Regards,
> > -- Soji
> > 
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