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["C. Bernard" <address@concealed>]

Hi

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On 2025-09-10 15:27, "Christian H. Kuhn" wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>
> thx for your answer.
>
> I forgot to include some informaton.
>
> root@bywater ~ # lsb_release -a
> No LSB modules are available.
> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
> Description:    Ubuntu 25.04
> Release:        25.04
> Codename:       plucky
> root@bywater ~ # sympa --version
> Sympa 6.2.76
> root@bywater ~ # apache2ctl -v
> Server version: Apache/2.4.63 (Ubuntu)
> Server built:   2025-07-14T15:12:31
> root@bywater ~ # postconf mail_version
> mail_version = 3.9.1
> root@bywater ~ # ll /run/sympa/
> total 20
> drwxr-xr-x  2 sympa    sympa     160 Sep 10 15:06 ./
> drwxr-xr-x 45 root     root     1360 Sep 10 06:33 ../
> -rw-r--r--  1 sympa    sympa       8 Sep  9 22:29 archived.pid
> -rw-r--r--  1 sympa    sympa       8 Sep  9 22:29 bounced.pid
> -rw-r--r--  1 sympa    sympa       8 Sep  9 22:29 bulk.pid
> -rw-r--r--  1 sympa    sympa       8 Sep  9 22:29 sympa_msg.pid
> -rw-r--r--  1 sympa    sympa       8 Sep  9 22:29 task_manager.pid
> srw-rw----  1 www-data www-data    0 Sep  9 22:11 wwsympa.socket=

[root@beastly /usr/local/etc/apache24]# ls -al /var/run/sympa/
total 28
drwxr-xr-x   2 sympa sympa  512 Sep 10 16:00 .
drwxr-xr-x  20 root  wheel 1024 Sep 10 03:48 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 sympa sympa    6 Sep  8 21:51 archived.pid
-rw-r--r--   1 sympa sympa    6 Sep  8 21:51 bounced.pid
-rw-r--r--   1 sympa sympa    6 Sep  8 21:51 bulk.pid
-rw-r--r--   1 sympa sympa    6 Sep  8 21:51 sympa_msg.pid
-rw-r--r--   1 sympa sympa    6 Sep  8 21:51 task_manager.pid
srw-------   1 www   www      0 Aug  9 13:01 wwsympa.socket

the "=" at the end of your last line is some "ls" linuxism?
And where is the "/run/sympa/sympasoap.socket" entry? (I would remove 
the soap config part / localtion for the moment, until the basic GUI 
works)


> Testing location is https://sglasker.de/sympa
>
> Am 10.09.2025 um 01:35 schrieb Stephen Jarjoura (via en Mailing List):
> > Your path is different, but here's the FCGI stanza in my Apache config 
> > file. [...]
> >
> >      <Location /sympa>
> >          SetHandler 
> > "proxy:unix:/var/sympa/var/run/sympa/wwsympa.socket| fcgi://localhost"
> >          Require all granted
> >      </Location>

Have you tried the retype the "|" in your config? (Maybe pasting did 
something bad in any of the copied config).
The space after the pipe, I don't have that, but most probably it does 
not matter.
I have already retyped entries letter by letter and char for char and 
afterwards it worked...copy from web to config file is not alway 
working. Use a plain textg text app in between helps.

Do you have the proper module in httpd.conf...?:

LoadModule proxy_fcgi_module libexec/apache24/mod_proxy_fcgi.so


> Same here. I just copied from doc and replaced Variables:
>
> <Location /sympa>
>     SetHandler "proxy:unix:/run/sympa/wwsympa.socket|fcgi://localhost"
>     # Don't forget to edit lines below!
>     # Require local
>     Require all granted
> </Location>
>
> # Lines below are needed for 6.2.28 or later.
> <Location "/static-sympa/css">
>     Require all granted
> </Location>
> Alias /static-sympa/css /var/lib/sympa/css
>
> # Lines below are needed for 6.2.28 or later.
> <Location "/static-sympa/pictures">
>     Require all granted
> </Location>
> Alias /static-sympa/pictures /var/lib/sympa/pictures
>
> <Location /static-sympa>
>     Require all granted
> </Location>
> Alias /static-sympa /usr/share/sympa/static_content
>
> <Location /sympasoap>
>     SetHandler 
> "proxy:unix:/run/sympa/sympasoap.socket|fcgi://localhost"
>     # Don't forget to edit lines below!
>     # Require local
>     Require all granted
> </Location>

I have only one alias for the entire tree (and no optional soap API 
configured) :

# sympa
Alias /static-sympa /usr/local/share/sympa/static
...
<Location /sy>
    #SetHandler fcgid-script
    #SetHandler fastcgi-script
    #Options +ExecCGI
    SetHandler 
"proxy:unix:/var/run/sympa/wwsympa.socket|fcgi://localhost"

    # Don't forget to edit lines below!
    #Require all denied
    Require all granted
</Location>
<Location /static-sympa>
      # Don't forget to edit lines below!
    #Require local
    Require all granted
</Location>


[root@beastly /usr/local/etc/apache24/extra]# ls -al 
/usr/local/share/sympa/static/
total 28
drwxr-xr-x  7 sympa sympa 512 Sep  8 21:51 .
drwxr-xr-x  7 root  wheel 512 Sep  8 21:51 ..
drwxr-xr-x  5 sympa sympa 512 Oct 31  2023 css
drwxr-xr-x  4 root  sympa 512 Sep  8 21:51 fonts
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  sympa 512 Sep  8 21:51 icons
drwxr-xr-x  8 root  sympa 512 Sep  8 21:51 js
drwxr-xr-x  2 sympa sympa 512 Sep  8 21:50 pictures

> > I would also check your selinux settings; we're running with it 
> > disabled, but I've seen the security context cause errors like that.
> I don’t do SELinux.
>
> BTW: I can’t write FCGI_OPTS anywhere. In wwsympa.service, the log 
> comlains about undefined option. /etc/sysconfig/dir not exists.

I use spawn (I am on freebsd so no selinux or systemd - all such 
daemon/startup conf lies in /etc/rc.conf:

[root@beastly /usr/local/etc/apache24]# grep -E 'spawn|sympa' 
/etc/rc.conf
sympa_enable="YES"
#sympa_enable="NO"
spawn_fcgi_enable="YES"
#spawn_fcgi_enable="NO"
spawn_fcgi_app="/usr/local/bin/perl"
spawn_fcgi_app_args="/usr/local/libexec/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi"
spawn_fcgi_bindsocket="/var/run/sympa/wwsympa.socket"
spawn_fcgi_bindsocket_mode="0600 -U www"
spawn_fcgi_username="sympa"
spawn_fcgi_groupname="sympa"

apache runs as user "www" here. (instead of www-data)

> And now, after changing the order of ServerAliases, i even get a 404 
> :-(
>
> 80.187.86.76 - - [10/Sep/2025:15:19:27 +0200] "POST 
> /sympa?_=9a59d083-34bf-4166-b312-e0573ff93fbe HTTP/1.1" 404 590 
> "https://www.sglasker.de/sympa"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; 
> x64; rv:142.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/142.0"


85.xy.yx.49 - - [07/Sep/2025:21:55:23 +0200] "POST /sy HTTP/2.0" 200 200 
58112 TLSv1.3 TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 "https://myown.domain/sy"; 
"Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:142.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/142.0"

I have 'h2' in apache24 configured and my url is /sy instead of /sympa 
(and no http only https)

hth
cheers
cmb

> log_level 3
> log_facility = syslog = LOCAL2 with respective conf of rsyslog.
>
> sympa logs mail events, but not web events.
>
> The solution will be sth very simple, but atm the bug (that one that 
> sits in front of the pc) feels a bit stupid and tired. Any further 
> help?
>
> TIA
> QNo