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Re: [sympa-users] how do i silently remove an owner?
- From: David Verdin <address@concealed>
- To: address@concealed
- Subject: Re: [sympa-users] how do i silently remove an owner?
- Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 17:13:52 +0100
Le 08/11/13 17:04, Ed C. a écrit :
address@concealed">Yes. the opposite is not true.Hi Andrew, Le 08/11/13 06:25, Andrew Engelbrecht a écrit :as an 'owner' of a mailing list, how do i silently remove another list owner?If you are an 'owner' and the persona non grata is an owner, then it seems that you are in danger of being removed by him/her. Can a privileged owner remove a non-privileged owner? address@concealed">You're raising the challenge to a new level, here...i tried:QUIET DELETE list-name user@domain QUITbut that seems to be for unsubscribing someone. i know it sounds like an illegitimate question, but i've removed this owner before (they were aware of that), then unwisely re-added them later. non-silent removal would likely stir up old conflicts in the group.The question is whether openness is more important than avoidance of conflict. The problem is that all mailing list programs are designed more as huge bulletin boards rather than as forums for disscussion groups. Even LISTSERV doesn't support member governed lists. Such (non-moderated) lists would require some mechanism for voting, fine-grained suppression of posting by single members vis-a-vis other ordinary members. How this would be accomplished I don't know, maybe by an array of bitfields which would enable a listmember to designate somehow the other members that he/she doesn't wish to hear from. Acutally, in Sympa, you can have a member governed list. All you have to do is grant, through authorization mechanisms (and edit_list.conf), the same privileges to list members as to list owners. Some actions are still reserved to list owners, but you can work this around by a datasource that includes the list members as list owners. And once this is done, i think you created anarchy, but that's a different matter. We don't have the voting mechanisms you suggested. address@concealed">Or edit the list config by asking the listmaster.the only no silent removal you can get is by editing the list config file. through the web interface, the owner will be warned.If both owners can edit the list config file then it seems like a third owner is needed to break the tie. I had the occasion, as listmaster to have to conciliate waring parties sometimes. Interesting part of the job... I never imagined myself as peacemaker. ;-) address@concealed">regards, Davidthanks, -andrew --Ed |
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[sympa-users] how do i silently remove an owner?,
Andrew Engelbrecht, 11/08/2013
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Re: [sympa-users] how do i silently remove an owner?,
David Verdin, 11/08/2013
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Re: [sympa-users] how do i silently remove an owner?,
Ed C., 11/08/2013
- Re: [sympa-users] how do i silently remove an owner?, David Verdin, 11/08/2013
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Re: [sympa-users] how do i silently remove an owner?,
Ed C., 11/08/2013
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Re: [sympa-users] how do i silently remove an owner?,
David Verdin, 11/08/2013
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