Developers of Sympa

[IKEDA Soji <address@concealed>]

Stephan,

On Fri, 25 May 2018 09:33:04 +0200
"Stefan Hornburg (Racke)" <address@concealed> wrote:

> On 05/25/2018 03:30 AM, IKEDA Soji wrote:
> > Marc, and all,
> > 
> > 
> > I don't allow your way talking only with people you think friends and
> > saying "After all, everyone agree to me".
> > 
> > I have been wondering why you tend to avoid discussing on public
> > area, GitHub, IRC or (although you have recommended) mailing lists.
> > It makes sense if you had wanted to force people to do in your way.
> > Have you wanted?
> > 
> > Please explain what is discussed, what is agreed on hackathon and
> > what you want to do as a result (others behave such).  And please
> > hear comments and suggestions by people.  Then do what you have to
> > do.
> > 
> > If you aim to promote communication among people participating
> > to Sympa community, such bahavior is the first thing you should do,
> > isn't it?
> > 
> > 
> > If you can not explain, please ask anyone else for explanation.
> > 
> > I'll wait till Monday noon on your place.
> > 
> 
> Hello Soji,
> 
> please be patient.
> 
> Marc wasn't at the hackathon yesterday due to private reasons, so
> I asked David to sum up our conclusions and send it to the mailing
> list.
> 
> We had a lot of discussions at the hackathon, but unfortunately we couldn't
> provide a live stream to make it public immediately :-).
> 
> It would have been great to discuss these things in person with you,
> maybe we can manage to do that next year?

Marc already requested RENATER tech for VM and DNS record.  Do these
things have to hurry? If they are not, request should be canceled once.

                                *

I don't hurry.  I just want to hear what is discussed, and to be
given chances to involve with (at least final) decision making.
Not only me: More than ten "core developers" should be given chances.

Perhaps your (eight's)  plan may be good.  But whatever it is good,
there are several (or many) points to discuss.

For example:
- Who is the person in charge on this issue?
- Who maintain (watch) the service running?
  If RENATER techies help, how can we contact them in urgent cases?
  Otherwise, who mainly maintains them?
- How can we do with crash (including crash of VM host)?
- Who deals with queries from users about services? (e.g. I can't
  see Sympa site! Is the server running?)
- What services may be run on the server?
- Are we allowed super-user access to the server (Otherwise, what
  interface is provided to manage server)? [I want this]
- How long the VM will be maintained? (e.g. until person in charge
  leaves community)
- What kind of regulations by RENATER are there to use their VM?
- When the older servers (www, demo, pootle, ...) will be shut down?
  How about translation process (e.g. HTTP redirection).
- etc., etc.

As I'm a system maintenance support worker, I listed points I
concern.  There are many points (not only things above) to discuss
among us, besides contents of web site.

Obviously, only eight people must not be able to decide all problems.

We should be given the time to know what is happening and to discuss
on it.  It's only natural, isn't it?


Regards,
-- Soji

> Regards
>          Racke
> 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > -- Soji
> > 
> > On Thu, 24 May 2018 22:04:54 +0900
> > Soji Ikeda <address@concealed> wrote:
> > 
> >> Marc,
> >>
> >> Please explain.
> >>
> >> ― Soji
> >>
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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